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Re: First Experience Crewing

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First of all, I didn't "tell" anyone to do anything. I told others what we were doing and what has worked for us. No need to misrepresent what I posted.

Secondly, physicians are trained in disease management and not nutrition. I would urge anyone and everyone to actively learn what they need to know to keep themselves healthy. All the research that anyone could ever want to read is available to everyone these days. There is no reason why people cannot learn what they need to do on their own.
But you are passing out dose and frequency of baking soda of your research to others. It is just plain wrong without any credential. I am sorry an EE degree would not cut it.

I have no problem that everyone being proactive on their well being, like yourself. But it must be guided by sound principle. Without the basis understand of human physiology, the principle of homeostasis in mammals, your research wont go far.

Taking sodium Bicarbonate on the daily basis even at low doses will lead to long problem in life, high blood pressure, fluid retention. congestion heart failure, kidney stone, increase the adverse effect of many prescription drugs, plus many many more.

In the last 40 years, doctors have advised their patients to cut down the salts of their diet and limit their daily intake of sodium. It must have a reason. There is also why AMA and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics fail to endorse daily intake of Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda).

I am sorry that I have offended you. May be you are a bit overreacting but this is nothing personal. But this is a scientific fact is well documented in medical text books and peer reviewer medical journals.

Dave and I have a long conflict in the past. He will take every opportunity he sees to throw gasoline in the fire. I don't have much respect of him. He shoveled his ideas into my throat for years, he makes sure I use his name when I get to the marinas. All his helps are so self serving. I refuse to be his "lap dog". So that is his revenge. A bit silly for an grown man if you ask me.

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Anyway... To stop the flamers, if anyone else would like any more information on Baking Soda and other things that we've found, feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share what we have learned in our quest to become healthy.
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Re: First Experience Crewing

Sounds like an awesome weekend.

I am mildly confused, however, about why there is such a ruckus about baking soda yet not one person mentioned the obvious health risks inherent in a diet consisting of sausage and steak!
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Re: First Experience Crewing

Dawg,

You entered the thread after Tom and I had already been conversing. In your typical way insulting the OP as is your history. When you get called on that you respond with your typical Modus operendi insulting others

I do not have to stand for your insults as a llap dog does.

We all know your reputation here from previous posts and have observed your lack of civility to others.

Your long periods of silence on SN give us all a rest from the arrogant braggadocio as well as lack of temperance you dispay to fellow sailors in the sailing community here. Many have we have come to expect this from your posts.

Maybe someday when you finally purchase a sailboat you will fully understand and experience the true commitment ( time wise, and financial) to sailing which many others have here in maintaining, and enjoying on a regular basis our passion and OUR vessels and each others different expertise. Only then will you understand that insulting others regularly does not build sailing comradiere.

I continue to hold hope out you will change you attitude. My offer still stands to meet with me or others and join in person at our various get togethers held here frequently in the Chessie area you live. Maybe then you might understand how fellow sailors treat each other with mutual admiration and respect. I am not holding my breath though.
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Tom,

Isn't worth the aggregation. I ignore him. He is an expert at all master of none. Isn't willing to buy a sailboat, but will make pronouncements on others. Just ignore him.
Huh?

Anyway, you would think that Mr. Peranteau would not so easily be offended, given that he invites controversy by signing off every post with a ludicrous statement that is liable to tick off at least half of the country. Very "charming."

Not important, though. I am off to work on my boat (yes, I do have a boat).
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Re: First Experience Crewing

watched alkalinity kill too many folks to agree with the benefits of baking soda in system--as with potassium,there is a very narrow band of acid-alkali that body can tolerate. too much of either=death. have fun with this. i have seen this happen, as an er and as an icu rn. be careful, as trends are murder.

my first crew experience was age 7 on a gaff rigged sloop on hudson river. only crewed a few times since then---last time was gulf o fmexico, 11 months, before that, carib 1 month, before that, a few years sailing with a former friend from lost angeles to catalina, did help deliver a 43 kettenburg for a friend X4--san diego - ensenada, sd-lost angels, etc....now i get to seek crew....

your article was fun! thankyou for sharing.
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watched alkalinity kill too many folks to agree with the benefits of baking soda in system--as with potassium,there is a very narrow band of acid-alkali that body can tolerate. too much of either=death. have fun with this. i have seen this happen, as an er and as an icu rn. be careful, as trends are murder.

my first crew experience was age 7 on a gaff rigged sloop on hudson river. only crewed a few times since then---last time was gulf o fmexico, 11 months, before that, carib 1 month, before that, a few years sailing with a former friend from lost angeles to catalina, did help deliver a 43 kettenburg for a friend X4--san diego - ensenada, sd-lost angels, etc....now i get to seek crew....

your article was fun! thankyou for sharing.
I agree and you have to monitor your system for pH. We use pH strips and monitor saliva and urine every day to make sure that we are within range.

I used to catch colds at least once a year, and the flu every other year. I have not been sick in over 2.5 years now even though the kids have been.

I'd like to hear more about your experience with seeing people die from alkalinity.
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some years ago during code blue situations, advanced life support included sodium bicarbonate injections to de-acidify system as and after the lungs acidified them---the alkalinity became a problem and folks died--of course, we dont know if they woulda lived at all--they were quite alkaline.
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I don't like what's in his signature either but he has first amedment right, as you do to speak against it.

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Re: First Experience Crewing

some may find the signature offensive, but some people might agree with the words stated. but, then, is a political statement, and all politix and all politicians belong in same pot. but not all of the people actually say so. and even that can be considered offensive...
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