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liveincolor 10-19-2012 07:03 PM

Sailing Around Long Island
 
Hey guys, thought I'd turn to my favorite forum for this discussion. I'm planning to sail my boat home around Long Island (not a complete circumnavigation) from Montauk to Fire Island Inlet via the Long Island Sound and New York Harbor. You can lend your advice if you like, but the purpose of this thread is not for helping plan it. I'm going alone at the end of the month and will be taking my time based on conditions. I will be writing about the whole trip as I go and keeping my newly started blog up to date on it (Captain Sebastian and Saoirse). I'd like to hear some ideas on how to promote my trip. It's not huge, but at this time of year, on a 20 footer and solo I think its something a magazine might like to see. How can I reach out to various sailing magazines about it ? Just a simple e-mail ? My dream is to one day be sailing around the world surfing, writing, logging etc and I figure I'll just start now in my own waters with the boat I have while I work on making that dream happen. So if you don't mind, please share some ideas. Thanks all

CalebD 10-19-2012 08:59 PM

Re: Sailing Around Long Island
 
Here are the specs for your Hurley 20':
HURLEY 20 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
She is a 'bilge keeler' and a perfect boat for the Great South Bay. The twin keels would also be useful in parts of LI Sound with it's 8' tidal range.

Your intended route to NYC back to Fire Island Inlet sounds fine on paper but I'll point out that FI Inlet is about 50 miles from both NY Harbor and MTK. Since there is less and less daylight as we head into the fall, will you be able to cover that distance in one day while leaving enough daylight to get through the inlet and hopefully at least anchor? I have been through FI Inlet on an ebbing tide in mild weather and it can throw up some nasty high waves, so you don't want to arrive there in the dark on an ebbing tide. The USCG Coastal Pilot has descriptions of all the inlets on LI that is worth reading and downloading for later use. It is free too: United States Coast Pilot®

After a quick glance at the charts I can see why you might not want to try going through the Shinnecock Canal and into the GSB as you would have to un-step your mast to do so. The same is true for Jones Beach Inlet and Rockaway Inlet but these inlets should be your Plan B places to use to get off the ocean if you need to. Besides, it would not be quite the adventure you would have coming around through the LI Sound.

I have also been on the LI Sound with 50 knot gusts and it ain't pretty either. In the fall we can get this kind of weather. You will have to pick your weather carefully as you make your way west and south and back around on the ocean.

As for magazines, there is 'LI Sail' and 'Soundings' that come to mind. I would not expect a big payoff from writing an article for them, if any. Magazines are having a hard time keeping afloat these days. It might help if you have published articles in some publication but do not get your hopes up for big money. I expect you could contact both of those publications via their websites although it always seems to me to be better to contact people like this in person.

Whether you get to publish your idea or not I'd still be interested in reading about your experiences. Heck, I'd even meet you somewhere around NY Harbor while you are passing through, if possible.

In any event, good luck.

liveincolor 10-20-2012 04:43 PM

Re: Sailing Around Long Island
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalebD (Post 936237)
Here are the specs for your Hurley 20':
HURLEY 20 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
She is a 'bilge keeler' and a perfect boat for the Great South Bay. The twin keels would also be useful in parts of LI Sound with it's 8' tidal range.

Your intended route to NYC back to Fire Island Inlet sounds fine on paper but I'll point out that FI Inlet is about 50 miles from both NY Harbor and MTK. Since there is less and less daylight as we head into the fall, will you be able to cover that distance in one day while leaving enough daylight to get through the inlet and hopefully at least anchor? I have been through FI Inlet on an ebbing tide in mild weather and it can throw up some nasty high waves, so you don't want to arrive there in the dark on an ebbing tide. The USCG Coastal Pilot has descriptions of all the inlets on LI that is worth reading and downloading for later use. It is free too: United States Coast Pilot®

After a quick glance at the charts I can see why you might not want to try going through the Shinnecock Canal and into the GSB as you would have to un-step your mast to do so. The same is true for Jones Beach Inlet and Rockaway Inlet but these inlets should be your Plan B places to use to get off the ocean if you need to. Besides, it would not be quite the adventure you would have coming around through the LI Sound.

I have also been on the LI Sound with 50 knot gusts and it ain't pretty either. In the fall we can get this kind of weather. You will have to pick your weather carefully as you make your way west and south and back around on the ocean.

As for magazines, there is 'LI Sail' and 'Soundings' that come to mind. I would not expect a big payoff from writing an article for them, if any. Magazines are having a hard time keeping afloat these days. It might help if you have published articles in some publication but do not get your hopes up for big money. I expect you could contact both of those publications via their websites although it always seems to me to be better to contact people like this in person.

Whether you get to publish your idea or not I'd still be interested in reading about your experiences. Heck, I'd even meet you somewhere around NY Harbor while you are passing through, if possible.

In any event, good luck.

Great points, and thanks for the link. For two years my father and me have sailed around the point and into Fire Inlet via Atlantic usually taking between 24-30 hours, but I'd like to do a solo trip and like you say, I won't make 50 miles in one daylight. So my plan is to go little at a time through the sound stopping at various harbors on the north shore of Long Island and CT shore. On the Atlantic end of it I still have some great inlets to tuck into just miles apart between NY Harbor and FI Inlet, but don't plan to use them to get into GSB, just protection if needed. I'm thinking it will take one to two weeks to complete.
I think you're definitely right about not expecting pay for it, in fact I hardly thought about a paycheck. I'm more interested in getting a following on my blog and hopefully get a chance to publish an article. Would love to meet up, I'll PM my cell number to you. I'm sure we can meet somewhere.

CalebD 10-20-2012 09:51 PM

Re: Sailing Around Long Island
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by liveincolor (Post 936464)
Great points, and thanks for the link. For two years my father and me have sailed around the point and into Fire Inlet via Atlantic usually taking between 24-30 hours, but I'd like to do a solo trip and like you say, I won't make 50 miles in one daylight. So my plan is to go little at a time through the sound stopping at various harbors on the north shore of Long Island and CT shore. On the Atlantic end of it I still have some great inlets to tuck into just miles apart between NY Harbor and FI Inlet, but don't plan to use them to get into GSB, just protection if needed. I'm thinking it will take one to two weeks to complete.
I think you're definitely right about not expecting pay for it, in fact I hardly thought about a paycheck. I'm more interested in getting a following on my blog and hopefully get a chance to publish an article. Would love to meet up, I'll PM my cell number to you. I'm sure we can meet somewhere.

I will give you a call soon (PM rec'd).

I'll make one suggestion as to how to develop a following on your blog. Look up a thread here called "Shameless Plug" and check out a few of BLJones' blog entries. I know that he has the same thread running on other boating forums (Anything-Sailing.com and probably even Sailing Anarchy). Every time he makes a new blog post he puts a 'teaser' in his 'Shameless Plug' thread. I know that he has gotten pretty good traffic by this means.

Another fairly successful blogger is Dylan Winter who has been writing a blog called "Keep Turning Left" Keep Turning Left
which is about him trying to sail around England on a small boat. He's even got fans on this side of the pond and Australia so he must be doing something right. Dylan has some interesting and funny videos posted to his various entries and people ALWAYS like pictures amd humor.

Your thread title of "Sailing Around Long Island" gets the point across of what your intent is but it is a bit more regional in it's appeal, perhaps. Some might confuse it with the Around Long Island Regatta though (ALIR). A slightly more provocative thread title with less regional appeal may (or may not) get more people to check it out. "Small boat, big ocean" or similar would be more regionally vague yet provocative.

Anyway, we'll talk.

dylanwinter1 10-21-2012 11:50 AM

Re: Sailing Around Long Island
 
try small craft advisor

although they pay $100 a page

Dylan


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