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Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

I would like to get some feedback on who makes the best mainsail handling package.
I have read negative comments on the Doyle system. I spoke to a fellow at Quantum that says their system is superior.
Anyone have any experience with either of these systems or another one that I may not be aware of?
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

I do not like stack packs in general. Just use stowable lazy jacks and a real sail cover.
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

What kind of boat do you have and what kind of sailing do you do?

I don't have lazy jacks or a stack-pack type system on my boat and I single hand all the time with (mostly) no problems. I am contemplating getting lazy jacks, though. I had a friend that put a stack pack on her boat and it sdeemed to me it was more work than it was worth.
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

I have a Doyle stackpack and it works absolutely great. May be different if you are crossing an ocean but for what I do (daysail, weekends) it is perfect. Rather than messing with a cover, I zip it open and am ready to go.
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

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I do not like stack packs in general. Just use stowable lazy jacks and a real sail cover.
I'm thinking of adding a stack pack - I currently do not have a lazy jack system.

What is it about stack packs that you don't like?
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

We have a stack pack type cover and love it. We had stowable lazy jacks and a regular cover but for short sails it was a hassle so we would leave it on and just roll out the headsail (I know, lazy, but that's reality). Now I use the main all the time because it's so easy. I also like the fact that when cruising for several weeks we cover the main every time we drop the hook instead of leaving the cover off because we'll be sailing again the next day. I can't recommend which brand to get, I see a lot of Doyles out there. I let a local canvas guy convince me he could build a good stack pack but it didn't turn out very well. It works OK but there's a lot wrong with it too. I wouldn't have one for ocean crossings (stowable lazy jacks are the way to go) but for anything else I think they're great.
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

The boat I am using for instruction frequently has a Quantum stack pack.

It has two lines on each side to adjust once the sail is up: one line to adjust the forward part of the pack and another to ease the lazy jacks. So much for doing everything for the cockpit.

When reefing the stack pack prevents me from seeing if the luff tack line is at the gooseneck and whether or not the leech line is taut.

The lazyjacks lines make raising the sail a PITA as you have to monitor the battens so that they do not get caught.

The seams have ripped on the stack pack.

The zipper has broken.

The line that is used on the zipper has failed.

The last 3 I attribute to UV damage which cannot be helped.

It is incredibility inconvenient.

BTW - covering the sail when at anchor is not a good idea. If I want to use my sail, I want it now. In addition there is little UV damage at night.

I have also used Doyle stack packs - did not like them either.

Another BTW - when was the last time you had a salesman recommend another company's product.

I like a balanced boat; the first sail to go up the main. It is also the last to come down.

The sail cover comes off the dock and goes back on at the dock. The main halyard goes on at the dock and comes off when back at the dock. That is prudent seamanship.
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

I have a Dutchman system with a standard sail cover and love it for me. However. the Doyle system works and is definetely the easiest out there. That or variations of what they started. If you are a day sailor that does some short trips it is a great system that saves time at the beginning and end of the day. If you are a racer you don't want lazy jacks, Dutchman, or Doyle, you want to take those expensive sails off and care for them.
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Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

I have a stack pack now, had a Dutchman on my prior boat. Neither is perfect or effortless, but both are pretty convenient. I much prefer a system of that kind that I can easily singlehanded than trying to deal with a sail falling all over the cockpit. I usually do need to go to the mast to get the main down all the way, but it is pretty helpful.
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Re: Doyle "StackPack", Quantum version or other?

We havea Quantum full batten main, Strong Track system by Tides and EZjacks( not Lazy Jacks). No modifying cover, no extra holes in the sail . EZJacks are unde and pulled back t he mast when you raise the sail and can be deployed in less than 1 minute FROM the COCKPIt before dropping the sail. I o a fir amount of singlehanding on our C&C 35MKIII and its an easy and Safe way to owner the main.

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