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Old 11-22-2012
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

One area I found that cuts the real cost of living for me is making my vehicle repairs a hobby. I save real cash doing my own work. I have gotten fairly competent. The work is done correctly. It goes way back for me. to the 60s so I have some experience now. It transfers to the boat, too. Automobile repair is a racket today. I wish our state cops would set up a sting squad. It constitutes grand theft.

A trailer boat would keep you on the water for the years it takes to build the income base you need to keep a boat at a slip. My Marshal Cat boat did that for me and I keep it on a mooring along with the big boat now. I hope you figure it out. I can't do with out the motion of the bay and the ocean air.

Do not wreck the lives of your kids over having a boat during their young lives. You will regret it a lot more than not having a boat.

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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

I think it was Dorothy Parker who said " You can live without necessities, but when you give up amenities, you're dead".
As stated above,you need to sail with your wife more often.
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

My husband and I had a nice long talk before we got married:

1/ no couch potatoes
2/ we participate, not observe
3/ we wouldn't hold each other back from things we enjoy as individuals

Everything comes down to communication and having a true sense of self while allowing for differences of opinions. You chose a marriage so if you want to stay married, I'd spend some time off the boat with your wife and kids until this is resolved. But, I wouldn't sell the boat. I'd reinvest in figuring this miscommunication out. It's either now, or never.

My husband was widowed when we met and married. I'm glad we both were middle-aged and knew ourselves. We also profoundly understand that life is much shorter than we realize and the time we spend on our boat, doing the things we enjoy are priceless.

But, I have to admit I didn't love sailing when we started (I love it now!) but I saw HE loved it and that made me happy. Happy people are better spouses so figure this out so you can stay married AND happy.
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...we also profoundly understand that life is much shorter than we realize and the time we spend on our boat, doing the things we enjoy are priceless. ...

...happy people are better spouses so figure this out so you can stay married and happy.
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

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10 pages of advice and much of it from divorced guys, that is like learning about explosives from a guy with no arms (just kidding)

Most of us blow more than $1300/year on coffee so I am sure that you will find the $$$ (a couple of side-jobs cover this). I would also bet that if you tell your wife how truly important this is to you as a family activity she will make every attempt to support you.

P.S.- I have been married to the same girl for 28 years
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

Can you afford to keep the boat? No. None of us can, but like crack addicts, we continue to pour money into our habit.

I got started in sailing to have something we could do as a family. My kids have been sailing since they were toddlers and today, as young adults, we continue to enjoy sailing together. Best thing I ever did as far as my kids are concerned.

Your boat expenditures don't seem too outrageous, but if you need to convince the wife that this is money well spent, calculate how much it costs you to keep her around. The boat is probably a bargain in comparison.
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

This is an old thread; I'd be curious to find out what happened. Hopefully things worked out for the best.
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

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10 pages of advice and much of it from divorced guys, that is like learning about explosives from a guy with no arms (just kidding)...
Divorced guys can be very wise. For instance, very few guys getting married for the first time would even consider a prenup...
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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

There's a famous quote:

"If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" is commonly attributed to J. P. Morgan in response to a question about the cost of maintaining a yacht

But recently I read an op-ed piece that suggested the quote is misinterpreted. The common interpretation of this is that you need to have a lot of money to keep a boat. The editorial suggested that the point of it was more about how you value boating, not how much money you have. For those of us who have the urge (disease?), there is simply no question, we're going to be out on the water. It may be a super yacht or it may be a kayak, but we're going to do it.

Remember there is no such thing as a practical boat, unless it's a work boat. All pleasure boating is impractical. In the same sense, there is no such thing as an affordable boat if you don't value boating.

I will disagree with those in the thread who would argue against your wife's viewpoint. I think that would only increase friction. My opinion is to keep the peace and get a boat that costs less to maintain. Working longer hours in order to keep the boat is not logical, it would end up taking away from sailing time. Going into debt is even worse.

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Re: can I afford to continue sailing

Get a bigger boat. ....... errr yes I am single now but happy.
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