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They're not *at* Hatteras, they're way east of the storm. They're there because they were on passage, going way from Canada to Florida. All the crew has been accounted for and are ok.

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What in the world were they thinking?? Not to mention the brave men and women from the USCG that now have to risk their lives to go get them.


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Minne, I think I posted while you were posting; they were there because they were caught at sea while on passage from Canada - they left before Sandy was even on NHC's radar. And they went WELL east of the storm track once it was being tracked, not right off Hatteras as the article makes it appear.

Generator failed and they were taking on water, they rode it out as long as they could overnight then made the call to abandon. All the crew are accounted for.


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they were there because they were caught at sea while on passage from Canada - they left before Sandy was even on NHC's radar. And they went WELL east of the storm track once it was being tracked, not right off Hatteras as the article makes it appear.

Generator failed and they were taking on water, they rode it out as long as they could overnight then made the call to abandon. All the crew are accounted for.
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Minne, I think I posted while you were posting; they were there because they were caught at sea while on passage from Canada - they left before Sandy was even on NHC's radar. And they went WELL east of the storm track once it was being tracked, not right off Hatteras as the article makes it appear.

Generator failed and they were taking on water, they rode it out as long as they could overnight then made the call to abandon. All the crew are accounted for.
That makes a bit more sense. Far be it for the media to get reporting correct these days.

However, something still doesn't feel right. For them to get from Canada to NC seems like they would have had plenty of notice of the incoming storm. Its been forecast as a huge storm since early last week, even if one may have thought it would turn to open water.

Heading south toward an incoming storm in open water???


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I don't think they were that imprudent, based on the early predictions' uncertainty (look at early discussion of the storm right here on SN, for example). And, Bounty was in an area of not-so-horrible conditions when they made the call, indicating to me that they had chosen a reasonable course. A generator failed last night, and the old woodie was taking on more water than they could pump.
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I don't think they were that imprudent, based on the early predictions' uncertainty (look at early discussion of the storm right here on SN, for example). And, Bounty was in an area of not-so-horrible conditions when they made the call, indicating to me that they had chosen a reasonable course. A generator failed last night, and the old woodie was taking on more water than they could pump.
I'm not intending to kick them, while they're down. I know that as of last Wednesday, when I hauled out, it was pretty clear that the storm was coming up the coast. It just wasn't clear that it would turn toward NJ yet. Spaghetti tracks showed landfall anywhere from VA to ME. That seems to be about the time they launched, so I'm not seeing how it was prudent.

Although, something more than the storms seems to be at play. The replica has two 375hp diesel engines in addition to the generator. The original didn't leak enough to require a generator at all. Something did happen to hull integrity, perhaps it was from the pounding. I am happy to hear the crew is safe.


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Oops, correction, they had already left Canada, they were in New London, CT a few days ago. That totally made sense, then, given Sandy's predicted impacts in NY and New England, that they'd be safer at sea than in port. They ssailed out due east to get well clear of the storm before continuing south. The Navy sent all their vessels out from Norfolk in advance of the storm for the same reason - sometimes you're safer away from the dock!


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Minne, I think I posted while you were posting; they were there because they were caught at sea while on passage from Canada - they left before Sandy was even on NHC's radar. And they went WELL east of the storm track once it was being tracked, not right off Hatteras as the article makes it appear.

Generator failed and they were taking on water, they rode it out as long as they could overnight then made the call to abandon. All the crew are accounted for.
I'm sorry, but to be where they were is absolutely unfathomable to me...

They departed New London, CT, ON THURSDAY... Seems like they were almost determined to meet up with Sandy abeam of Hatteras...

I can't imagine what they were thinking, or why they didn't run into Norfolk, or the Chesapeake, for example... I'd really like to hear the rationale for this voyage...
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I'm not intending to kick them, while they're down. I know that as of last Wednesday, when I hauled out, it was pretty clear that the storm was coming up the coast. It just wasn't clear that it would turn toward NJ yet. Spaghetti tracks showed landfall anywhere from VA to ME. That seems to be about the time they launched, so I'm not seeing how it was prudent.

Although, something more than the storms seems to be at play. The replica has two 375hp diesel engines in addition to the generator. The original didn't leak enough to require a generator at all. Something did happen to hull integrity, perhaps it was from the pounding. I am happy to hear the crew is safe.
It's hard to second-guess why he decided to put out rather than stay docked somewhere. It's not like there are no relatively safe spots along the Conn/RI/Mass shoreline. Up inside New London or behind the storm gates at New Bedford would seem a good place to sit it out. Sounds like she really opened up and flooded all the engines. Maybe the original was built by shipwrights that had built a few of these before:-)

Maybe they had a..... schedule.... to keep.

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