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Although this says plan view, it should have said elevation view. It's of a vertical slice north to south through the center of Sandy' GFS solution just off the coast of NJ.

You can see how complex the warm core interaction is with the surrounding air masses, I'm not kidding when I say it could and I hope it does suddenly die on the vine, well, not die but stop intensifying or even fizzle.

...and you say that there's a lack of information out there?


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For a slight change of direction, I just went down to look at LI Sound. I've never seen it so ugly.
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Waves in southern Lake Michigan are forcast to be 30' Tues night. This thing is big.

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Waves in southern Lake Michigan are forcast to be 30' Tues night. This thing is big.
We're already getting high wind warnings. Right now I'm about 16 miles WSW of southwest corner of Lake Michigan. I'm having a hard time believing that the breezy conditions I'm seeing can be coming from Sandy.

30' waves in Lake Michigan is killer. Let's hope they are wrong.
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It's been reported that the Bounty was in constant contact with the National Hurricane Center, so I think it's fair to assume that they had the best information that was available. I'd say we need to wait until we know more about how, why, and what decisions were made before we start assigning blame.
Sorry, but "the best information available" at the time of the BOUNTY's departure from New London was that Sandy was going to be a remarkable "Perfect Storm" of extraordinary complexity, and in all probability guaranteed to compare in intensity and duration to the Ash Wednesday Storm 50 years ago... To attempt to shoot the gap between Sandy and The Graveyard of the Atlantic, in such an unweatherly vessel, seems to me nothing short of sheer lunacy...

And, if you're gonna look for anyone else but the Captain of the BOUNTY on which to place "blame" for this tragedy, well, then we have nothing further to discuss...
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Sorry, but "the best information available" at the time of the BOUNTY's departure from New London was that Sandy was going to be a remarkable "Perfect Storm" of extraordinary complexity, and in all probability guaranteed to compare in intensity and duration to the Ash Wednesday Storm 50 years ago... To attempt to shoot the gap between Sandy and The Graveyard of the Atlantic, in such an unweatherly vessel, seems to me nothing short of sheer lunacy...

And, if you're gonna look for anyone else but the Captain of the BOUNTY on which to place "blame" for this tragedy, well, then we have nothing further to discuss...
I'm not actually looking for anyone to blame. But obviously, you're free to blame whomever you choose.
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I'm just not following how the Bounty could have possibly thought it was going to get far enough East to avoid Sandy. At the time of their departure, it was well known to be a big problem in the Northeast, they would have needed to get a third the way to Europe to avoid it. Then they must have tracked back to the West to try to outrun it? If they realized the flaw, they should have returned north, as it was then becoming very clear it was a Jersey landing.

I just don't get it and now it sounds as if some lives have been lost. Very tragic. I'm sure there are some decision makers that will live with this for the rest of their lives. I won't pound further on them, but we probably can learn from this as we understand more.


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Re: Halloween Hurricane

It was for sale in a very dismal market. Makes you wonder why you would head south toward FL with a hurricane in the Caribbean.

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It was for sale in a very dismal market. Makes you wonder why you would head south toward FL with a hurricane in the Caribbean.
To collect the insurance?
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