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Old 10-29-2012
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I just don't get it and now it sounds as if some lives have been lost. Very tragic. I'm sure there are some decision makers that will live with this for the rest of their lives. I won't pound further on them, but we probably can learn from this as we understand more.
We can analyze and try to learn. But lets try to keep the level courteous and elevated - I know, unusual for this group, but TRY, okay? We spent 3 days on the ship volunteering with them for their education mission when they were in Annapolis, and met many of the crew and the skipper. He's one of the two missing. Respect, please.
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Re: Halloween Hurricane

Got notification a couple of hours ago that the entire NYS Canal System is now closed:

HURRICANE SANDY 10/29 UPDATE

Mariners are advised the entire New York State Canal System is closed to navigation. Guard gates and lift bridges Statewide will be lowered to prevent structural damage from high winds. The Canal Corporation continues to closely monitor the forecast of Hurricane Sandy and additional actions are possible depending on the storm track. Water levels throughout the Canal System may change with little advance notice as the storm progresses. Additional updates will be provided as information becomes available.
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Was just over to Lake Champlain to check the boat and snug up stands. We're about 300 miles from this storm and it's already blowing pretty hard.
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Speaking of canals... FDR drive is now a canal;
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We can analyze and try to learn. But lets try to keep the level courteous and elevated - I know, unusual for this group, but TRY, okay? We spent 3 days on the ship volunteering with them for their education mission when they were in Annapolis, and met many of the crew and the skipper. He's one of the two missing. Respect, please.
WnW, I'm not sure if you were suggesting I was being less than respectful. I acknowledged that there would be many that would live with this for the rest of their lives, for that reason.

However, I don't agree that any criticism is disrespectful. Quite frankly, they made a very bad decision that seems to have cost lives. If one chose to drive someone home after a couple of beers and they were killed, they would be vilified. I submit that the odds of killing someone on a Tall Ship near a hurricane are higher.

Thye made a very bad call, in my opinion. We just dont know why. Not intended to be offensive or self-righteous, just honest.
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Sorry, but "the best information available" at the time of the BOUNTY's departure from New London was that Sandy was going to be a remarkable "Perfect Storm" of extraordinary complexity, and in all probability guaranteed to compare in intensity and duration to the Ash Wednesday Storm 50 years ago... To attempt to shoot the gap between Sandy and The Graveyard of the Atlantic, in such an unweatherly vessel, seems to me nothing short of sheer lunacy...

And, if you're gonna look for anyone else but the Captain of the BOUNTY on which to place "blame" for this tragedy, well, then we have nothing further to discuss...
I'm not actually looking for anyone to blame. But obviously, you're free to blame whomever you choose.
Agreed, "blame" is probably an unfortunate choice of words...

While being little more than a semantic distinction, the point I was trying to make was that it was the Captain, and the Captain alone, who ultimately shoulders the "responsibility" for this tragedy...
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These guys are pinned in Haverstraw.

Toronto 2 St Maarten

Just passing through, and then a hurricane...
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Pressure at 939mb. Winds at 90mph. Traveling at 28mph. And they say there is so much power in the storm it will take hours, even 10's of hours, before it begins to lose strength once it makes landfall. This storm is a terror!
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Steve ,

Is that Ventnor and Trenton next to Chelsea Towers. Spent summers in AC growing up.

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