HMS Bounty in trouble...

[PCP]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

...Some of the facts that have emerged do seem to give credence to the argument that Bounty had survived more intense conditions in the past. As we try to speculate on what happened, these mitigating facts may shed some light on the captain's thinking at the time.

I have been trying to find evidence regarding Bounty sailing in other Hurricanes and except that run away from Andrews in 1992 (they run away from an Hurricane did not sail one) I cannot find anything notwithstanding the crew and other sources vague statements about that. It seems that you have found information about that.

Do you mind to share?

Regards

Paulo

[chef2sail]

Originally Posted by Bountydaughter

You are correct and I apologize to chef2sail. I did see that he quoted that from another post. So although it should not have been addressed to chef2sail the response remains appropriate to the quote.

Is ok and easy to get some of the rhetoric confused in here.

[Ninefingers]

Originally Posted by PCP

I have been trying to find evidence regarding Bounty sailing in other Hurricanes and except that run away from Andrews in 1992 (they run away from an Hurricane did not sail one) I cannot find anything notwithstanding the crew and other sources vague statements about that. It seems that you have found information about that.

Do you mind to share?

Regards

Paulo

Who cares? Really, who cares?

An apparently kind and thoughtful man lost his life because of a bad decision.

So what's the lesson?

Don't make bad decisions?

That's not humanly possible.

[Minnewaska]

Originally Posted by Ninefingers

Who cares? Really, who cares?

An apparently kind and thoughtful man lost his life because of a bad decision.

So what's the lesson?

Don't make bad decisions?

That's not humanly possible.

The lesson is that anyone could become more risk tolerant if they successfully dodge the bullet on previous attempts. You may win a few hands, but the casino always wins in the end. Could save your life to remember it.

[Bountydaughter]

Bounty daughter I think if you go back and reread this you will see that I was posting stuff which others have said in previous threads as well as recently about you by Jamewilson which I found offensive to be posted about you. I was defending you and had put his quote in there as is normal in postings here



I have been a defender of you dad Robin all along and did/ do not like seeing them attack you either. I know you can standup for yourself.



I did go back and reread the post and apologized in a post when I realized my mistake. I know I can stand up for myself but I do appreciate the support.

[chef2sail]

No problem...I have kept a log of the posts containing the rude personal statements by a few here who have been after you dad since day one. I am ashamed that it occured. Regular opinions are far different than these.

Despite pleas for not rushing to judgement on this they have continued posting negativity, ineuendo, distorted charts and personal opinions disguised as factual information. This with no regard for the feeling of the poeple who loved and admired the Captain.

It is a sad reflection of society that a person who lost her father, friend or colllegue would have to endure reading what has been written of a personal nature toward your dad. This wriiten by those who never even met him.

I apologise for them too. God bless you and your family.

[Minnewaska]

I'm betting I could find a pretty good log of rude and offensive posts in PRWG, as well as these forums. While the forum rules don't restrict it there, that shouldn't have anything to do with the point, if one argues it should never be done.

I have a family member that was institutionalized for anxiety and paranoia after abusing marijuana daily for a year. Would the members that advocate legalization tone it down in my presence? I have another relative that was a State Trooper than dove fully clothed into a reservoir to rescue a women who drove off the road and sank inside her car. Should I be offended by the routine disparaging comments against LEOs?

The internet has exposed thought that was socially muted in our past. However, these thoughts always existed, so one could argue that we live in a much more honest place now. As evidence since BD disclosed her affiliation, no one will confront her directly out of respect. But, how does that change the fact that these thoughts exist, written or not?

Stifling the expression of thought, even when we disagree, is ironic.

[jameswilson29]

It's interesting that some folks only want to stifle the thoughts that differ from their own.

You are all welcome to agree with me strenuously, but don't you dare post anything else or I will invent some reason why it is inappropriate.

I remain skeptical about the true identity of folks who post anonymously on internet forums. It is their right and can foster the dialogue that they would be otherwise unable or unwilling to participate in, but don't tell me these posters deserve the same respect as those of us who freely reveal our identities with real names, locations, photos, videos, etc.

You never really know whether an anonymous poster is who they claim to be, or a sock puppet for someone else.

[PCP]

Originally Posted by chef2sail

No problem...I have kept a log of the posts containing the rude personal statements by a few here who have been after you dad since day one. I am ashamed that it occured.

....

That is a good thing we got a policeman around here, I mean beside moderators.

Regards

Paulo

[PCP]

Originally Posted by jameswilson29

It's interesting that some folks only want to stifle the thoughts that differ from their own.

You are all welcome to agree with me strenuously, but don't you dare post anything else or I will invent some reason why it is inappropriate.

I remain skeptical about the true identity of folks who post anonymously on internet forums. It is their right and can foster the dialogue that they would be otherwise unable or unwilling to participate in, but don't tell me these posters deserve the same respect as those of us who freely reveal our identities with real names, locations, photos, videos, etc.

You never really know whether an anonymous poster is who they claim to be, or a sock puppet for someone else.

I guess that you have said what many think but had not the courage to post. Actually I tried to verify if Bountydaughter is really who she claims to be and found out that there is not anyway to do that. Not saying that she is not bounty Captain's daughter (I have no way of knowing that) but the odds seem small to me.

Of course that changes in nothing is right to participate on this discussion, just makes the discussion more awkward.

Regards

Paulo