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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

If anyone takes anything they read on a forum as fact, they must be too far gone to be fixed by a tagline.

I mean really, if I'm sitting next to a guy at a bar that I don't know, I don't need a disclaimer to take anything he says with a grain of salt. Even if he is really passionate about it. I still find myself talking to him.
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

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I actually tried the copper-strip-over-garboard method on an old 30s vintage Richardson. It actually worked really well. Never lost the garboard caulking again. The problem with it is that during the winter, when blocked up, the copper holds moisture in and rot becomes a problem. For old, oil saturated garboard seams it does work.
Thanks for posting that, smurphny. It just so happens my garboard seams are leaking a bit - enough to be annoying - but they're not old or oil saturated and the caulking is moving, not falling out.. Since the boat lives in the water all year round, I'll certainly keep that in mind as something to consider next haul-out.

.. and now, back to the discussion at hand..
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The whole vessel at sea is safer then at port thing just comes off as pure dumb fuckery to me-PCP
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Saying "well the U.S. Navy does it" is just another sign of these peoples ignorance-PCP
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They are sticking like limpets to the idea that the safest place to be in a storm is at sea -PCP
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If anyone takes anything they read on a forum as fact, they must be too far gone to be fixed by a tagline...
By your definition, you discount all of the supposed "facts" that have been pasted from gcaptain.
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

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It was not really a matter of laying in port or not. Bounty had amply time to leave and keep Sandy relative position in respect. It was more a question as to which direction to steam after the decision to leave the harbour was taken. At barely six knots ... the only courses that could be recommend are the ones heading to the east and then to the north.

Looking at Paulo's diagram (thanks Paulo!), if they were already in a secure port it makes absolutely no sense to me why they would leave..

..unless they had a schedule to meet and, guessing they would be delayed for many days by the storm and the clean-up operations if they waited where they were, the Captain thought he could make it...
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Or they were told to leave...no one really knows yet factually
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I mean really, if I'm sitting next to a guy at a bar that I don't know, I don't need a disclaimer to take anything he says with a grain of salt. Even if he is really passionate about it. I still find myself talking to him-
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

If anyone takes anything they read on a forum as fact, they must be too far gone

I am practicing to be like Paulo. Using different colors and fonts, boldening entire statements or posts. Maybe it will make it make others read my own opinions and others will assume they are facts like his.

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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

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(snippage)The fact that he went to sea with a damaged pump system (one Genset out of service) and without a back up system is just unacceptable for them, hurricane or not.
(more snippage) but we know that the direct cause was that the boat has making water and that the only remaining genset
Paolo, we don't "know" ANY of what you posted. We've read quotes attributing such conditoins IN THE PAST. How do YOU KNOW that those conditioins in FACT existed on her last voyage, which took place a few short weeks from her last hauled-out maintenance work?

It may well turn out that they were, indeed, running with one genset out of service, but we certainly don't KNOW it at this point in time. No more than we know that any of the posts from the "professional captain's site" that you keep quoting here are indeed professional captains.

Just like the dozens of people who "knew" that the Bounty headed East, when it never did.
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

I think I will annoint myself the "fact checker" like the networks had for the campaign. Just for this thread though as it could become a full time job I fear
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