HMS Bounty in trouble...

[SailorMikeS]

Very sad. Talked to a couple of the crew at Annapolis City Dock when Bounty was here this past summer.

Mike

[jimjazzdad]

This gets weirder and weirder. The link I posted to the story about Claudene Christian being a direct descendant of the mate of the original Bounty is no longer working. Instead, the Halifax Chronicle Herald reports:
UPDATED 9:09 p.m.

"Bounty crew member Claudene Christian is in critical condition in an Elizabeth City, N.C., hospital after being found by the U.S. Coast Guard on Monday evening.

An earlier report said Christian, 42, had died.

"She was unresponsive when we located her," coast guard Petty Officer 1st Class Brandon Hill said in an interview around 7:15 p.m. Atlantic time.

Hill said he did not have details as to whether Christian was wearing a survival suit or a life-jacket, adding it was too soon to know all the details.

A helicopter crew searching the waters located Christian, but were still scouring the seas for Robin Walbridge, the captain of the HMS Bounty, which sank earlier Monday."

This must be awful for her family...reported dead then not. I know we are all praying for her recovery...

[MedSailor]

Originally Posted by jimjazzdad

"HMS Bounty now sunk according to US coast guard. 5 crew hoisted from life rafts so far. Lifts continue. #cbcns
by PhonseJessome via twitter on October-29-12 at 9:13:41 AM

Oh man this is awful! Where is the "I don't like" button when you need it.

As a recovering wooden boat owner this story gives me chills. I've been in a storm and cracked a garboard and started taking on water before. Almost lost the boat. I've also had my boat in a recently refitted condition and seen the bilge pumps working overtime just because the planks were "working". I'm going to go and kiss my overly thick fiberglass hull next time I'm aboard.

Thoughts and prayers go out to those who are lost and missing.

MedSailor

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by wingNwing

The Navy sent all their vessels out from Norfolk in advance of the storm for the same reason - sometimes you're safer away from the dock!

In a square rigger? I don't think so. The Bounty wasn't exactly a guided missile cruiser, it was a 50 year old movie prop.

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by JonEisberg

Yup, it's as simple as that...

Man, when the captain of the Picton Castle criticizes your seamanship, that's GOTTA hurt.

[mdbee]

Update, she didn't make it.

Bounty crew member dies, hospital official confirms | The Chronicle Herald

Originally Posted by jimjazzdad

This gets weirder and weirder. The link I posted to the story about Claudene Christian being a direct descendant of the mate of the original Bounty is no longer working. Instead, the Halifax Chronicle Herald reports:
UPDATED 9:09 p.m.

"Bounty crew member Claudene Christian is in critical condition in an Elizabeth City, N.C., hospital after being found by the U.S. Coast Guard on Monday evening.

An earlier report said Christian, 42, had died.

"She was unresponsive when we located her," coast guard Petty Officer 1st Class Brandon Hill said in an interview around 7:15 p.m. Atlantic time.

Hill said he did not have details as to whether Christian was wearing a survival suit or a life-jacket, adding it was too soon to know all the details.

A helicopter crew searching the waters located Christian, but were still scouring the seas for Robin Walbridge, the captain of the HMS Bounty, which sank earlier Monday."

This must be awful for her family...reported dead then not. I know we are all praying for her recovery...

[LoboPops]

The last I had seen earlier was that Ms. Christian had been found in a survival suit but was unresponsive... I took that to mean to wait and there would be further information since that water is going to be cold and sometimes surprising recoveries occur. I'm praying for the best.

[MedSailor]

Originally Posted by LoboPops

The last I had seen earlier was that Ms. Christian had been found in a survival suit but was unresponsive... I took that to mean to wait and there would be further information since that water is going to be cold and sometimes surprising recoveries occur. I'm praying for the best.

Yes, there is a saying in Emergency Medicine, "Nobody is dead until they are WARM and dead." It's likely they resuscitated her and managed to get her heart working for a while before resuscitation efforts were terminated.

I mention this because one of us might be at the scene of a cold water drowning where help is not immediately available (ie on our boats). If the drowned person is found, continue trying to get definitive help (get them to a hospital) and if the actually are pulse-less, keep them as cold as possible. People have been resuscitated hours after drowning in cold water.

Another update: There were no children aboard. From the Chronicle link above:
Simonin said the crew members are from all over the U.S. and range in age from 20 to 64. They are trained, experienced and paid sailors, she said. Most of the crew members were in Nova Scotia when the ship visited during this summer’s tall ships festival, she added.

MedSailor

[HighFly_27]

I just read on AOL, that the CPT Robin Wallbridge is missing, one dead (42 YO, C. Christian), appears that everyone else has been saved.

I read that they lost their diesels and taking on water. I understand, when they lost the diesels they were doomed.

I ask this and very green to sailing.... would it have been better to put into port when the force of the hurricane was known ? I'm guessing that his crew was not that experienced from a guess standpoint. If that was the case, (fair/ poor crew exp.) I would have been very concerned... with (continued) sailing into very bad weather. I did read ..that a boat can have a better chance at sea then at port to survive a bad storm. I did not get that point at all; wondered if this is (better chance to survive storm) is referenced to large ships like the H.M.S Bounty and the like ? ! ?

I'm Not 2nd guessing anyone, just asking a question to gain useful information (green sailor) for my use in the future.

[saltfree]

Originally Posted by HighFly_27

I just read on AOL, that the CPT Robin Wallbridge is missing, one dead (42 YO, C. Christian), appears that everyone else has been saved.

I read that they lost their diesels and taking on water. I understand, when they lost the diesels they were doomed.

I ask this and very green to sailing.... would it have been better to put into port when the force of the hurricane was known ? ...

I'm Not 2nd guessing anyone, just asking a question to gain useful information (green sailor) for my use in the future.

Go back to page 1 of this thread and read along. Most of your questions have already been questioned...