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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

Rather surprising no one has posed the question so far, so I'll give it a shot...

Why on earth would one want to completely spoil the exquisite pleasure of sailing a 25-footer in sufficient breeze to put her on a heel, by running one of those infernal things? (grin)

I forget, what sort of power do you have aboard your boat? Inboard, or outboard? The 1000 is actually a pretty inefficient way to charge batteries, after all...
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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Rather surprising no one has posed the question so far, so I'll give it a shot...

Why on earth would one want to completely spoil the exquisite pleasure of sailing a 25-footer in sufficient breeze to put her on a heel, by running one of those infernal things? (grin)

I forget, what sort of power do you have aboard your boat? Inboard, or outboard? The 1000 is actually a pretty inefficient way to charge batteries, after all...
I agree that I would rather not have an engine running while sailing.

However, why is 1000w any less efficient way of running the 110v chargers than anything else? Has to be more efficient than my genset and any engine driven alternator.
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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Not sure if one can get a retro-fit kit, you may want to look into making the genset you do get an LP useage. You do lose some power using LP, I do not recall the amount, for discussion purposes, I am recalling around 10%, so the 2000s unit would produce around 1800w.

A LOT of folks use the 2000w with land yachts, then link together, as at around 50-60 lbs iirc are easier to move than a single 3-4K unit in the low 100 lbs range. Yeah a 1000 at 25-30 lbs is easier yet........again, it depends upon how much power you need! Not sure if the 1K unit will tie together like the 2K units will to produce ~4Kw of power. If 50-60 lbs is too much for you to lift, but you need say 1500w of power at your max useage, then 2 -1K units tied together may be an option if you can do that.

If it were me, I would really try to find an lp operated genset, as at least then, while not CO free, compared to gas, very CO free, way less threat from fumes etc. I am sure there is an additional 200-500 cost.......but worth it imho!

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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

Swamp I think thats a great idea since we already have propane aboard.

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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

Reading posts re: gasoline generators I always wonder why anyone would spend so much money for a Honda or whatever famous brand .Bought a 1kw at Harborfreight for $90.00 about 5 years ago and this thing works fine! Always start and no rust
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

For starting a 16k BTU air conditioner with a Honda 2000, you will want to use what is called a "Soft Start" device. It's an electrical module that you wire between the generator's output and the air conditioner's input. Think of it as a valve that opens slowly to control the amount of current it allows to the air conditioner while the compressor is starting to turn.

When you start an electrical load, such as a motor, the starting current shoots up pretty high and then gradually ramps down to the full load current that the device requires to run. This is called "in-rush" current. As people above have already mentioned, the electrical name plate on your air conditioner lists how many Amps it draws. That is the current draw when it is up and running. The Amps will be a lot higher as it starts up.

What a Soft Start does is choke that startup current down and stretch it over a longer period of time, such that the inrush current is kept to a controllable level. The device will take a little longer to get up to full current, meaning the motor will turn a little slowly at first.

The ramp up time is rather quick- it's not really that noticeable. We are talking a few seconds here. But a Soft Start will keep you from tripping breakers or knocking the generator off line when you start the air conditioner.

A Soft Start is sized based on the voltage and rated current of the load device (your air conditioner) that will be connected to it.

Here's an example of a soft start: (you want a "single phase" unit)

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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

We have power again as of 8:30 PM Still gotta wait in gs lines BUT even thats getting a bit better

I was merely inconvenienced while perhaps not Katrina level folks around here on the south shore have really lost EVERYTHING
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

Glad you're back on Tom. My brother has his boat over in Bayshore. He came out of it with no damage but people I know in Stony Brook STILL have no power. What a screw up for LILCO!
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