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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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I agree that I would rather not have an engine running while sailing.

However, why is 1000w any less efficient way of running the 110v chargers than anything else? Has to be more efficient than my genset and any engine driven alternator.
Well, not sure what sort of power he has, or charging system, etc...

But, if memory serves, the 1000 only puts out something like 8 amps in the 12v direct charge mode...

If I try to use my 1000 using my 1000w inverter/battery charger which normally charges at around 50 amps max, I have to reconfigure the "Power Share" function to a much lower setting, down to around 20-25 amps for the Honda to be able to run it... So, at that point, my engine's alternator will offer a much higher charging rate...

As you say, the Honda 1000 is a great little tool, but I consider it to be little more than an emergency back-up, I just don't think it makes sense as a means to charge batteries on a cruising boat on a routine basis...

I'll admit, it has come in handy over the last 10 days or so... Not this morning, however, didn't seem necessary to run my refrigerator for awhile today - leaving the fridge open inside my house probably would have worked just as well... (grin)

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Damn JOn...looks like a Christmas shot...we got furries here abnd were spared
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

Honda 1000 8 amp per hour
Honda 2000 13.3 amp per hour

Electramax alternator 80 amo. 60 amps per hour
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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Honda 1000 8 amp per hour
Honda 2000 13.3 amp per hour

Electramax alternator 80 amo. 60 amps per hour
Aren't those a little misleading, as one is at 12v and the other at 110v?

Amps x volts = watts
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

I used to deliver this boat to Central America and back every year with this old guy who had a little honda " suit case" gen mounted on deck infront of his mast in a ply wood box. He needed it to make coffee with his electric perculator and make breakfast in his microwave. When the boat would heel too much to port, it would'nt run because of the oil censor cut off thing. We would have to run down wind to flatten the boat out so he could make coffee. One year he was proud becuase he figured out how to get that censor out and it would stop cutting off when the boat rolled. I alway's thought the set up was silly, but to each his own. My wife had a gen like that on her ranger 26 when we where dating. It was great at anchor, She kept it on the cockpit floor when useing it. On eco throttle you could'nt hear till you where right up next to the boat, we used it to watch movies. ( before every one had lap tops.) Never had a fume problem and gas is kept on most boats anyway's for outboards, so that was not an issue.
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

As I recall these Honda generators have an oil leveling sensor..tip to far and the engine will cut off. A safety feature if the generator inadvertently tips over..
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

honda 2000, but it wont run at an angle--while sailing, why do ye need a generator to run>?????

i was very disappointed in th 1000, so i traded it when i first bought it , for a 2000, and i still have that 2000, now, 10 yrs later. it still runs and still charges and is still quiet.....
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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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you people that are using either the 1000 or 2000 to run your onboard battery charger should take a look at the output of your charger It is probably pretty low since the input voltage on the AC side is only 65 volts. As i said in an earlier post the honda generators split the voltage between the neutral and hot leads and a mod is required to make things right. Its a simlpe matter of bonding the ground and neutral wire.
I would love to see a wiring diagram to this you speak. I'm planning to use a Honda 2000 and was going to wire it to the shore power connection.

You can PM me if you wish. I think I have enough posts to see it.

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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

I have a 2,000 watt unit and it carries most of the house if you start the refrig and freezer separately. IIRC, I think the operator's manual says that if the oil level gets low it will shut itself off, which it may do when heeling?

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Re: Running a portable generator at an angle of heel

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I would love to see a wiring diagram to this you speak. I'm planning to use a Honda 2000 and was going to wire it to the shore power connection- propelllantech.
Simple solution

There are a number of different models of the Honda 2000. Some of them actually come with a 30 amp plu which you can just run your shore power cord in. We have the eu2000 which doen not so we have a simple 2 foot Marinco adaptor cord which runs from the 110 outlet on the genrator to the shorepower cord.
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