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I am getting really steamed.

I have been editing and uploading our daily video logs and watching the footage we shot in July and am again seized with anger and despair over the conditions we found on our latest transit of the North Pacific sailing from Hawaii to Alaska. Day after day, starting at about Day 8, the amount of trash floating in the water is appalling! The amount that has sunk below the surface must be horrific.

All you ever see is images of the "Pristine" ocean. Let me tell you: it is not pristine out there. It is a garbage dump. I have vowed to do as much as I can to increase public awareness of this problem. I don't know what else can be done except maybe to get people to generate less trash and to dispose of it properly.

I am trying not to be too heavy handed in our videos; after all, we want people to watch them and be entertained, but we are showing the reality that most people will never see. I just hope we have some small impact and maybe cause someone to be more careful disposing of that styrofoam packing material or plastic container.
Re-reading your initial post you make no mention of expecting to see a lot of trash, in fact your whole tone sounds "steamed" to find a lot of trash as you were sailing through a known trash island from one of the largest tsunamis of modern times. I'm not being confrontational or controversial I'm merely responding to what you wrote and pointing out that based on your own words you sounded genuinely surprised to see so much trash. Perhaps if you had mentioned that you expected to see it and were aware of the tsunami island of trash and were asked to document what you saw in the OP it would have eliminated the need for me to mention it. I'm kind of steamed that our beautiful beaches on the WA coast are being littered with it but until we figure out how to prevent tsunamis there's no blame to be assigned. We know it's coming and it will be cleaned up as it arrives.

We have bought things that are packaged in biodegradable "styrofoam" that breaks down fairly quickly, I wish it was mandatory for all products world wide.

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I have sailed through the Pacific gyre three times.

In 2000 I was sure that someone ahead was throwing 1 foot square pieces of plastic overboard. We saw plastic bottles, oil bottles and fishing floats. A small piece of fishing net ate our transmission.

In 2010 we did not see much.

In 2012 we saw some obvious tsunami debris: a 1'x1'x 15' piece of concrete dock. We also saw a piece of fishing net, which did not ear out transmission, and lots of plastic.

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OP, I watched a great many of your videos this weekend, throughly enjoyable, loved your trips !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think there needs to be a ransom put on the trash. Pay a certain amount per ton removed from the water. That would give freighters a reason to put out some sort of surface nets to pick up some on there way back to china. After all they are mostly empty anyway. Heck the way china recycles (much of our cardboard is sent there to be recycled into packaging for more consumer goods) they perhaps could turn it back into a bunch of carp to sell back to us.
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As far as I can find out there is no such thing as Biodegradable Styrofoam but there are products becoming or already available that can be used as an alternative to Styrofoam and are biodegradable. One of these uses waste from sugar can pulp.

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I think we got something packaged with this stuff, Mushrooms, which is made from organic waste infused with mycelium. Compostable. Makes sense to me.

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I think we got something packaged with this stuff, Mushrooms, which is made from organic waste infused with mycelium. Compostable. Makes sense to me.
also apparently similar thing from coconut fibre ....

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OP, I watched a great many of your videos this weekend, throughly enjoyable, loved your trips !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed them. Uploading a new one right now. Beautiful videography. Not much talking.


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I just hope we have some small impact and maybe cause someone to be more careful disposing of that styrofoam packing material or plastic container.
Vega - I'm with ya. The garbage in the oceans is finally starting to get some press, but it needs more attention. I posted on my website about the issue back in July: Stepping Up on My Oceanic Soapbox

I found the graphic in the link above to be truly eye opening.

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Uuniversity of Hawaii just sailed through the "Patch"
Plastics at SEA North Pacific Expedition - Investigating the effects of plastic in the ocean ecosystem | Home

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...l?id=150712415

I think the only answer is start using fully biodegradable plastic. Think how we lived just 30 years ago, back then everything was not made of plastic like today. Even if we recycle, reuse, reduce, there will be billions and billions (ie Carl Saigan) of pieces of plastic entering the ocean every year.

Also, what you don't see is the biggest problem. Plastic will breakdown into smaller and smaller pieces. Some suspended in the the water column. It becomes ingested by fish, sea birds, whales, and turtles.

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