Garbage Island - SailNet Community
 20Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 67 Old 11-09-2012 Thread Starter
Swab
 
vega1860's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: At Sea
Posts: 805
Thanks: 2
Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Angry Garbage Island

I am getting really steamed.

I have been editing and uploading our daily video logs and watching the footage we shot in July and am again seized with anger and despair over the conditions we found on our latest transit of the North Pacific sailing from Hawaii to Alaska. Day after day, starting at about Day 8, the amount of trash floating in the water is appalling! The amount that has sunk below the surface must be horrific.

All you ever see is images of the "Pristine" ocean. Let me tell you: it is not pristine out there. It is a garbage dump. I have vowed to do as much as I can to increase public awareness of this problem. I don't know what else can be done except maybe to get people to generate less trash and to dispose of it properly.

I am trying not to be too heavy handed in our videos; after all, we want people to watch them and be entertained, but we are showing the reality that most people will never see. I just hope we have some small impact and maybe cause someone to be more careful disposing of that styrofoam packing material or plastic container.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
vega1860 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 10,830
Thanks: 45
Thanked 217 Times in 202 Posts
Rep Power: 7
   
Re: Garbage Island

People that dump intentionally should be water boarded.

However, storms like Hurricane Sandy and tsunamis like that in Japan put a lot of garbage in the water that was never intended.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Minnewaska is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,217
Thanks: 1
Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Garbage Island

Quote:
Originally Posted by vega1860 View Post
I am getting really steamed.

I have been editing and uploading our daily video logs and watching the footage we shot in July and am again seized with anger and despair over the conditions we found on our latest transit of the North Pacific sailing from Hawaii to Alaska. Day after day, starting at about Day 8, the amount of trash floating in the water is appalling! The amount that has sunk below the surface must be horrific.

All you ever see is images of the "Pristine" ocean. Let me tell you: it is not pristine out there. It is a garbage dump. I have vowed to do as much as I can to increase public awareness of this problem. I don't know what else can be done except maybe to get people to generate less trash and to dispose of it properly.

I am trying not to be too heavy handed in our videos; after all, we want people to watch them and be entertained, but we are showing the reality that most people will never see. I just hope we have some small impact and maybe cause someone to be more careful disposing of that styrofoam packing material or plastic container.
Are you aware that our own U.S. NAVY is still exempt from the MARPOL rules..

SEAWASTE
aa3jy is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
remetau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 780
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Garbage Island

Reduction in waste is key to the issue. We need to quite producing so much plastic crap, but in order to do that, the demand for such cheap plastic crap needs to be eliminated.
Ritchard likes this.

Don & Diana
sv Re Metau an HC33t

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
remetau is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 67 Old 11-09-2012 Thread Starter
Swab
 
vega1860's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: At Sea
Posts: 805
Thanks: 2
Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Garbage Island

Quote:
Originally Posted by remetau View Post
Reduction in waste is key to the issue. We need to quite producing so much plastic crap, but in order to do that, the demand for such cheap plastic crap needs to be eliminated.
Packaging, driven by marketing and anti-theft concerns, is a huge contributor. Drives me nuts, all the trash we have to dispose of after a trip to Costco, before we even bring our supplies aboard.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
vega1860 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
billyruffn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,287
Thanks: 5
Thanked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 11
 
Re: Garbage Island

Some of that, perhaps most would have come from the tsunami in Japan. Apparently, there is a huge raft of flotsam working it's way around the N. Pacific. When we did the HI to AK passage in 2006 we saw no garbage. In fact, on the 4800 nm trip from Costa Rica to HI I saw only 2 plastic bottles. Ocean was pretty clean back then.
jrd22 and JulieMor like this.

Last edited by billyruffn; 11-09-2012 at 05:44 PM.
billyruffn is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
kd3pc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Callao, VA
Posts: 1,382
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Garbage Island

for decades, NYC and other mid atlantic states barged garbage and wastes out to the ocean and just chucked overboard...I think until the 90's when they started trucking some 1,000's of tons daily to PA/MD/VA and even NC...

then there is the whole sewerage issue...some states still run long pipes out and pump the marginally treated stuff in to the ocean...

until this nation focuses on the other parts of the recycle cycle..like reduce, reuse .....the oceans will be the easiest place to chuck it. Just look at any intersection at all the garbage that washes in to the storm sewer drains and out to the oceans....
kd3pc is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
floridajaxsailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ft Myers, FL
Posts: 190
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
.

huge issue
period

Great Pacific garbage patch & all these things you mention are an enormous problem~ God bless you for working on it
I talk about it as much as I can at least twice a week
epic issue
-JD
floridajaxsailor is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Senior Member
 
Philzy3985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Redondo Beach
Posts: 187
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Garbage Island

Agreed.

Public awareness is key here. Recycling, reusing, etc.. As a surfer and sailor, I explain to non-water people that the ocean isn't pristine like they think, it's more like a diluted pool of trash. Most especially around populated areas, where rain just creates run-off of everything on land flowing into the ocean. LOil, littered garbage, dead animals (seriously), chemicals, you name it, it flows into the ocean. There isn't much one person can do personally, but when I walk back from each surf, I pick up what I can on the beach, it's usually grocery bags and food bag wrappers. I've seen much worse after storms though.

The other day I was sailing off of Los Angelese and saw a soda can with japanese (my guess) labels, I assume drifting from the tsunami. I'm thinking about bringing one of those pool cleaning nets and when I take guests sailing, just having them swoop some things up if they get bored. The thing I see most commonly in the ocean are party balloons all leaking air and tied together, floating on the surface.

The whole disposal of trash is an entirely immense issue, but for people who enjoy the oceans and lakes, seeing it treated like a land fill is awful. The sea is such a vulnerable and easy place to let waste seemingly dissappear.

There's some strong voices out there sailing, on swellvoyage.com, Liz has seen up close the amounts trash surrounding "beautiful" indonesian islands and other places.

I've been in traffic before and witnessed someone litter out their window. I got out my truck, walked up to their door and picked it up, said "Excuse me I think you dropped this" and put it back in the persons face. The person sat speechless. Of course, I don't recommend doing this, there's some crazies out there. I chose this woman because she had kids in her car, figured she wouldn't act insane in front of them and maybe they'll get the message too.

I'm thankful that most sailors aren't contributors to the problem.
Philzy3985 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 67 Old 11-09-2012
Crotchety Old Member
 
tomperanteau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Pedro Harbor, California
Posts: 873
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: Garbage Island

Agreed completely, Chuck.

Capt'n Tom Living Aboard 50/50

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

S/V Footprints

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Youtube

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


1976 41' Morgan Out Island Sloop. Refitting and redoing her interior for an extended voyage.

1969 Crealock/Columbia 36 Sloop completely refitted in 2000 and new Yanmar in 2006. (for sale)
tomperanteau is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Tags
garbage , island packet , pollution , trash

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Garbage Island nccouple Cruising Videos 9 03-27-2013 10:02 PM
Good news: Pac garbage patch much smaller jrd22 General Discussion (sailing related) 12 01-07-2011 09:49 PM
Pacific Garbage Patch Birdface General Discussion (sailing related) 0 10-29-2009 07:11 AM
Dealing with garbage while cruising Keldee Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 17 04-21-2009 02:46 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome