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flyingwelshman 11-16-2012 03:51 PM

What's it really like out there?
 
I am reading KonTiki and am really surprised by the description of the quantity and diversity of marine life that Thor and the lads are encountering in mid-ocean.
My perception was that the vast stretches of sea were pretty barren.
According to the book they are being practically swarmed by flying fish, squid, mahi mahi, sharks etc. with appearances by a whale shark (which was sadly speared in the head before it vanished beneath the waves), turtles, manta ray, swordfish, etc. etc.
If you have made a crossing, have you found such a variety and density of marine life? Or was that the 1947 standard, and the 2012 numbers are different?
I'd be interested to hear your experience (would rather experience it myself but....)

MarkofSeaLife 11-16-2012 05:01 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
There's nothing out there. Not more than 500 nms from the coast.
Bugger all.
Kon Tiki must have meant closer to the islands.

There were whales and stuff in the North Indian Ocean, but the Pacific was dead for weeks between Galapagos and Marquesas.
I've seen a few whales mid Atlantic on one trip, none on another.

Remember the middle of the oceans are deep, thousands of meters deep. In the tropics there's not much nutrient to feed fish, therefore larger species don't prey there. Certainly wouldn't be white pointer sharks their area is far south of the tropics. They must mean the oceanic white. If someone had speared it that means it was close to an island.

On a positive note, there's none of the trash that you read about either! The far ocean waters are quite pristine, just not much nutrient.

By the way, on the pacific run, you can go a week without seeing a ship.... For weeks and weeks one ship per week! Don't break your leg cos their ain't no one out there to rescue you!


Mark
Ps I just check my website and we never took a photo mid ocean..... Because there's nothing to take a photo of!

capn_dave 11-16-2012 05:41 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
Boring with a little terror on the side

skygazer 11-16-2012 06:18 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
Also there is a big difference between a fast, clean, high sided sailboat, and a slow, low raft acting like a tea-strainer, letting the water through but staining out the flying fish. Bet they also had their own ecosystem on the underside of the logs, carrying along their own nutrients. Weren't those logs green when they started?

AKscooter 11-16-2012 06:20 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
Its not a place to raise your kids, in fact its cold as hell..........


:)

GeorgeB 11-16-2012 07:04 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
When we crossed from Gran Canaria to Grenada last December, practically all the wildlife was below the Tropic of Cancer. We had many, many flying fish and often found a half to a dozen on the boat during the morning “walk around”. We saw one whale shark. We were visited by a pod of 50 – 100 porpoises one day and were treated to quite a show – a dozen or more would all jump at once en echelon, to be followed immediately by another dozen and so on. Very memorable. On the way to Hawaii in ’08 not so much wildlife. A few Pacific Porpoise right outside the Gate and a grey whale or two near the coast. Not so many flying fish on this trip but we did catch a Dorado. Had a Sperm whale cow and calf cross our bow one evening and saw a few trawlers when we got within 400 NM of Hawaii. Most of the whales out here are Grays and Humpbacks which migrate along the coast and are a pretty common sight (or smell) when transiting north or south along the California and Mexico coasts.

ShoalFinder 11-16-2012 07:27 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AKscooter (Post 949410)
Its not a place to raise your kids, in fact its cold as hell..........


:)


I think it's gonna be a long long time

smackdaddy 11-16-2012 09:11 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife (Post 949384)
There's nothing out there. Not more than 500 nms from the coast.
Bugger all.
Kon Tiki must have meant closer to the islands.

There were whales and stuff in the North Indian Ocean, but the Pacific was dead for weeks between Galapagos and Marquesas.
I've seen a few whales mid Atlantic on one trip, none on another.

Remember the middle of the oceans are deep, thousands of meters deep. In the tropics there's not much nutrient to feed fish, therefore larger species don't prey there. Certainly wouldn't be white pointer sharks their area is far south of the tropics. They must mean the oceanic white. If someone had speared it that means it was close to an island.

On a positive note, there's none of the trash that you read about either! The far ocean waters are quite pristine, just not much nutrient.

By the way, on the pacific run, you can go a week without seeing a ship.... For weeks and weeks one ship per week! Don't break your leg cos their ain't no one out there to rescue you!


Mark
Ps I just check my website and we never took a photo mid ocean..... Because there's nothing to take a photo of!

Hey Mark - it's good to see you around, dude. How have you been?

I'll take a look at your blog. You still in NY?

flyingwelshman 11-16-2012 10:00 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skygazer (Post 949408)
Also there is a big difference between a fast, clean, high sided sailboat, and a slow, low raft acting like a tea-strainer, letting the water through but staining out the flying fish. Bet they also had their own ecosystem on the underside of the logs, carrying along their own nutrients. Weren't those logs green when they started?

That may be a part of it - they definitely did develop their own community of pilot fish etc.

The logs were freshly cut. Ants were a problem for a while.

biology 11-16-2012 10:12 PM

Re: What's it really like out there?
 
AK: I hear it's also like a desert with it's life underground and a perfect disguise above...

We should take a poll on how many people have a boat named: "horse with no name"


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