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Caribbean 1500 ???

I have a question. I know that the Caribbean 1500, like the ARC is not properly a race but it has a classification, prizes and nobody likes to be behind.

The question is why on the Caribbean 1500 the cruisers/racers use a lot more the engine, I mean many run it for 60 hours and more while on the ARC the engine is much less used?

I know that on the ARC the time is chosen to have the trade winds blowing, on the Caribbean the timing is not also coincident with favorable winds?

If not why not?

Several sailboats run the engine for more than 75 hours and since they are mostly 45/50fts that means about 520nm out of 1500 on engine and about 450L (or more) of diesel. Is not that too much for an offshore long distance crossing?


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Re: Caribbean 1500 ???

It is really a function of where and when for the 1500. It starts at the beginning of November because that is when the 'official' hurricane season is over. By this time of year only the last few hundred miles are reliably in the trade winds - hence the idea that everything being equal you want to get to 65°W before heading into the trades. North of the trades it is a crap shoot in terms of winds. You can get frontal systems from the north that bring lots of wind (but changing in directions) or you can get little cyclonic activity and end up with very light winds. The year we did it, not in the 1500 but at the same time, a massive depression formed off the Chesapeake and moved north towards Greenland over the next several days and then stalled with a cold front that extended to Cuba. I can assure you we did not have to motor until we reached the Virgins. We had more than a week of days over 170 miles (I think our best was 193).

The ARC is through a pretty benign piece of ocean with largely predictable winds; the 1500 is a completely different kettle of fish.
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Does the Caribbean 1500 have at least two different classes. Racing and cruising?
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Re: Caribbean 1500 ???

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Does the Caribbean 1500 have at least two different classes. Racing and cruising?
The ARC has but they all have results (I mean the cruising division and the race division) so I guess the cruising division is a kind of not too serious race for amateurs/cruisers while the racing class is a more sportive event.

World Cruising Club: ARC results

On the Caribbean 1500 it seems that there are not a racing division but only a cruising division, maybe because there are much less boats and not properly cruiser racers or racing boats as on the ARC

World Cruising Club: Caribbean 1500 results

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It is really a function of where and when for the 1500. It starts at the beginning of November because that is when the 'official' hurricane season is over. By this time of year only the last few hundred miles are reliably in the trade winds - hence the idea that everything being equal you want to get to 65°W before heading into the trades. North of the trades it is a crap shoot in terms of winds. You can get frontal systems from the north that bring lots of wind (but changing in directions) or you can get little cyclonic activity and end up with very light winds. The year we did it, not in the 1500 but at the same time, a massive depression formed off the Chesapeake and moved north towards Greenland over the next several days and then stalled with a cold front that extended to Cuba. I can assure you we did not have to motor until we reached the Virgins. We had more than a week of days over 170 miles (I think our best was 193).

The ARC is through a pretty benign piece of ocean with largely predictable winds; the 1500 is a completely different kettle of fish.
Thanks for the explanation. It was clear

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