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Gypsea 11-25-2012 02:37 PM

Need advice from cruisers
 
Id just like to ask, How'd you Do It? I'm slowly prepping for cruising but, at times, it just seems overwhelming. I have the boat that I'll be using which is a Morgan 33 OI. The boat is in pretty good shape and I've been sailing her for 2 years now. I've been sailing for about 10 years altogether. I won't be leaving for at least another 4 years. At which time, I'll be able to collect a small pension which, should be enough to keep me going. I know 4 years sounds like a long time but, it seems like there's no limit to the things I need to do before leaving. My question is: did you just get to a point where you felt you've done the best you could and shove off? I don't want to fall into that rut where, I never feel prepared and, never end up leaving. Any advice would be greatly appreciated .
Jeff of Gypsea

MarkofSeaLife 11-25-2012 04:42 PM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
A fool and his life are soon parted.

I met a guy the other day who has been fixing his boat for the last 10 years.
He says he is about to leave.

Ho Ho.

If you are retiring in 4 years and really can not retire earlier then organize yourself so you can leave in 4 years and 1 days time.

There are many out here cruising. But there are vastly more who are wasting their lives pretending to get ready.

We are out here doing it and not waiting for you, nor others, to get out here too.

If that sounds harsh, let it motivate you. :)


Mark

wingNwing 11-25-2012 05:59 PM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
Cruising isn't something you "do" it's something you "are." There's not really a getting-ready phase and then you're done and you don't do anything any more except sail and play. As long as you're on your boat, you're repairing and modifying and maintaining and improving. So, in the 4 years you have left: figure out how you're going to get your mail and pay your bills while traveling; whittle down your possessions; install in your boat the critical systems for safety and comfort and whatever makes you feel like you're not camping out. Sail a lot, anchor out on weekends to get those systems further refined. Move aboard before the 4 years are up, if that's practical - you learn a lot while living aboard even at the dock.

Then go! If necessary, you'll stay in some port for a while making modifications and upgrades, but you'll be having adventures!

Cruisingdad 11-25-2012 08:14 PM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wingNwing (Post 953007)
Cruising isn't something you "do" it's something you "are." There's not really a getting-ready phase and then you're done and you don't do anything any more except sail and play. As long as you're on your boat, you're repairing and modifying and maintaining and improving. So, in the 4 years you have left: figure out how you're going to get your mail and pay your bills while traveling; whittle down your possessions; install in your boat the critical systems for safety and comfort and whatever makes you feel like you're not camping out. Sail a lot, anchor out on weekends to get those systems further refined. Move aboard before the 4 years are up, if that's practical - you learn a lot while living aboard even at the dock.

Then go! If necessary, you'll stay in some port for a while making modifications and upgrades, but you'll be having adventures!

Yes. As usual my friend WNW has it.

First, forget the term cruiser and remember the term 'mobile-live aboard'. That is what you have to start thinking. Sell the house and store the things you simply do not think you can sell. Just forget about that stuff for a while. Now, focus on being a live aboard. We all are. Some are just more mobile than others. Who cares? Get your boat early and start learning her. Don't wait until you are retired, then have the pension, then start selling the house, then start researching boats, etc. you will bee 900 years old before you get out. Instead, start your process now. It will take longer than you think. Enjoy living in a marina and learning. THEN start putting together the pieces so when your job is done, the only thing holding you back is dock lines. Sounds easy, but it isn't. You will be tied up another year before you are ready to go.

My point is to start the beginning of your life now. Btw, as I type this, I am anchored off Snead island, then Venice tomorrow, cabbage key next day, fort Myers beach, then tortugas for A week...

You could be here too.

Brian

orthomartin 11-25-2012 09:09 PM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
Cruisingdad has it right. People get excited about the idea and start thinking non-stop about it. Truth is it's not as complicated as we make it. Past 5 years we are now over 30,000nm and leaving Puerto Rico now for Colombia and then South Pacific. We departed Lk Mi out the St Lawrence in 08 with little planning and have not looked back. You learn most as you go but... a couple suggestions

I think one of the most important aspects is to learn as much as possible about the mechanics and electrical systems first. Personally I am not so "mechanical" but in the past 5 years I have learned a lot, usually with the help of other cruisers. The way things breakdown in a never ending fashion can be most frustrating. I am very careful about maintenance, even to a fault, but still there is no stopping the crap from failing.
Understand your diesel, the alternator and the charging/inverting system. Actually as I am typing I realize I could go on and on. Bottom line learn everything you can during this "wait Period" about your boat and it's systems. Being a good troubleshooter and fixer guy will do more for your cruising life then you can currently imagine. Welcome to the "club"!

TQA 11-25-2012 09:15 PM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
If you wait till all the boat jobs are done you will never leave.

Do the essential and GO NOW!

Gypsea 11-25-2012 09:50 PM

Need advice from cruisers
 
Some great advice unfortunately, It would be financially foolish for me to leave before the 4 years. My company is one of the few that still offers a pension after 30 yrs. I'm at 26. So, if I left earlier, I would get zip until social security, ha, ha.
I have started prepping the boat and myself. I take week or two trips on it every summer along with the daysailing here on lake Mich. I work in an engineering lab for a major diesel manufacturer. So, I have a pretty good knowledge of diesels.
I realize that cruising will not be all play. I wasn't planning on that. I would go nuts!
My long term plan goes something like this. Mississippi down to the gulf, to keys etc. then over to Bahamas. Island hop my way toward the Panama Canal. Through the canal toward Hawaii. Then, try to figure out a way to live aboard in the Hawaian islands. If its doable, I'd sell the house and upgrade to another boat. Does anyone have experience with sailing around the Haw. Islands??

chef2sail 11-25-2012 10:00 PM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
Gypsea,

I am in the same situation waiting to retire and am getting as much experience and outfittting doen as I can in the next few years.

Cruising will be what you determine it to be. Some go out and never come back and liveaboard forever. Some cruisers Take a 6 month hiatus and travel but come back to a home base. Cruising is what you make of it and want to make of it. It should be a way of life that you want to live and live it the way you want to. Some of the stuff you can prepare yourself for, and some you cant.

For us cruising will be a 6-7 month of the year journey. We dont want to give our land home up as we enjoy it also. Something to be said for seeing deer and owls outside, robins and Baltimore Orioles in the spring, seeing the tulips, crysanthumunms and black eyed susans. We also want something oither than a boat to have when we eventually have an illness and want to have a good home base next to hospitals like Johns Hopkins.

Cruising is custom tho the person doing it. Do what YOU like, Go where YOU want to go. Experience that part of your life and may it be as rewarding as your life has been to this point.

Dave

Cruisingdad 11-26-2012 06:35 AM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gypsea (Post 953109)
Some great advice unfortunately, It would be financially foolish for me to leave before the 4 years. My company is one of the few that still offers a pension after 30 yrs. I'm at 26. So, if I left earlier, I would get zip until social security, ha, ha.
I have started prepping the boat and myself. I take week or trips on it every summer along with the daysailing here on lake Mich. I work in an engineering lab for a major diesel manufacturer. So, I have a pretty good knowledge of diesels.
I realize that cruising will not be all play. I wasn't planning on that. I would go nuts!
My long term plan goes something like this. Mississippi down to the gulf, to keys etc. then over to Bahamas. Island hop my way toward the Panama Canal. Through the canal toward Hawaii. Then, try to figure out a way to live aboard in the Hawaian islands. If its doable, I'd sell the house and upgrade to another boat. Does anyone have experience with sailing around the Haw. Islands??

No way I would walk away from that pension either. My point was to start putting things in place now.

BubbleheadMd 11-26-2012 08:04 AM

Re: Need advice from cruisers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gypsea (Post 953109)
Some great advice unfortunately, It would be financially foolish for me to leave before the 4 years. My company is one of the few that still offers a pension after 30 yrs. I'm at 26. So, if I left earlier, I would get zip until social security, ha, ha.
I have started prepping the boat and myself. I take week or trips on it every summer along with the daysailing here on lake Mich. I work in an engineering lab for a major diesel manufacturer. So, I have a pretty good knowledge of diesels.
I realize that cruising will not be all play. I wasn't planning on that. I would go nuts!
My long term plan goes something like this. Mississippi down to the gulf, to keys etc. then over to Bahamas. Island hop my way toward the Panama Canal. Through the canal toward Hawaii. Then, try to figure out a way to live aboard in the Hawaian islands. If its doable, I'd sell the house and upgrade to another boat. Does anyone have experience with sailing around the Haw. Islands??

4 more years, to ensure some sort of financial stability isn't that much of a sacrifice, and I agree that you should stick it out.

I also agree with WnW, that you should be unloading your personal posessions during that period, and living aboard, before "D-Day".

Where I feel your plan goes astray, is that you say you're sailing an OI33, and plan on sailing to Hawaii. I don't feel that your boat is a good choice for such a journey. Coastal cruising, and hopping over to the Bahamas? Sure.

You might want to re-think your vessel, or re-think your destinations. Otherwise, I feel that you're on solid ground.


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