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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

What was you original bilge pump? Seemed that system worked for 30+ years I would stay with that. In addition you could mount a rule on the cabin floor, or in cabinet, for the major flooding incidents that hopefully will never happen.
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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

There must be an O'Day owners group on the web - what do the hundreds of other O'Day 27 owners do?
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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

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Okay, so I am looking at the diaphram pumps and wondering why they put out so much less water but costs so much more?
Also, what model should I get for my boat? how many gpm is acceptable?
Jabsco 36600 Diaphragm Bilge Pump? 475 gph
ITT Jabsco 372020000 ? 4.5 gpm
They just seem to pump so much less water...
I have a small secondary diaphragm pump which was in the boat when I got it. The foot for that and a newer, large Rule sit in the low point of the bilge, both on electronic sensor switches, one over the other. The diaphragms are noisy enough to wake the dead! Maybe some sort of pump similar to a modern fresh water pump would be a better idea.
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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

I have no experience with this one.

Dry Bilges are possible!

I think there was a system like this (may have been the same one) in Latitudes and Attitudes TV. As I recall it was in the segment where they show stuff at the boat shows.
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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

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Diaphragm pumps just cost more, a lot more. There are more moving parts on a diaphragm pump than a centrifugal pump like a Rule. You could buy 7 (or more) Rule pumps for the price of one Jabsco 36600 pump.

How much water are you expecting to need to pump out of your 2" deep bilge? You don't need much more than a 500 gph pump to empty a few gallons of water now and then.

Since I have had two (2) Jabsco diaphragm pumps fail on me I do not recommend using them.

Is there some spot on your cabin sole (floor) where you can cut away a hole where you could insert a Rule pump into the bilge?

Why yes, yes there is
Thanks for the idea.
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What was you original bilge pump? Seemed that system worked for 30+ years I would stay with that. In addition you could mount a rule on the cabin floor, or in cabinet, for the major flooding incidents that hopefully will never happen.
Well I bought the boat and it had.. idk. nothing? I think it had some sort of old diaphram pump. Anywhoo it didnt work so I trashed it and got a 50$ utility pump from harbor freight that ive used up to this point.

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Here is the bilge I have to work with:



Note those pics are very old, the boats much nicer now =)
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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

Well idk why but the pictures wont show. If you want to see the pics here is link:







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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

I don't recommend Rule pumps or switches. Have an diaphragm pump FLOJET Pump, Marine/Rv, 12 Vdc - Industrial Diaphragm Pumps - 2P366|02100-12C - Grainger Industrial Supply a maintenance pump (keeps bilge almost dry) and a Johnson centrifugal pump as an emergency bilge pump. All subjects covered in detail in other bilge pump threads here. Search if interested.
The diaphragm would work for your situation but is not suitable for emergencies. If you can also mount a centrifugal pump and automatic switch anywhere they would kick on before water got to the motor or other vital mechanisms, it would be better than nothing.
BTW: I think this thread should be in Gear and Maintenance. You'll get more responses in the right category.

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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

On my O'day 35 I have a Whale Gusher - manual diaphragm pump in the cockpit, and a Rule Gold 2000 mounted in the bilge.

Note that Rule has a "Standard" and a "Gold" series of pumps. The difference is;
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Rule Gold Series Bilge Pumps are engineered to commercial standards for superior quality and performance. Fully submersible 1500GPH, 2000GPH and 3700GPH 12V bilge pumps have a water cooled lubricated ball bearing motor.
Motors feature 5/16 inch stainless steel shafts, water-cooling and a vibration free centrifugal impeller that won't burn out if bilge runs dry. Built-in triple straining system helps to eliminate clogging and prolong the life of the pump.

5 year manufacturers warranty.
(most of this sounds like BS... except the 5 year warranty)

Rule makes a variety of different types of pumps, including in-line pumps. you can read about them here: http://www.xylemflowcontrol.com/files/artdoc7841.pdf

I also have a Ultra Safety Systems Ultra Pump Switch. These do not stick, and will not clog. Learn more about these here: TEF-GEL - Ultra safety systems - Home page
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Re: Rule Bilge Pumps

The nice thing about the diaphragm pumps is that you can mount them up under a settee and run a pick up hose to a bilge area.. you don't need a lot of 'headroom' for that. The problem of finding a switch that will activite within the two inches remains.. the switch will fit, but won't activate until the floorboards are floating (which, in an emergency would work, I suppose...)

Harbor.. you need to paste photobucket's IMG CODE link option.. I fixed your earlier post for you.
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