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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

My boat came with the main halyard running to the cockpit, it's the only system I know, and I don't like it. I usually end up at the mast anyway, for reefing, topping lift, or to help the main down. I think I would rather just have everything at the mast, rather than running back and forth from the cockpit to the mast. But then I've never sailed solo. I'm also thinking of experimenting with a single or double line reefing system, rather than the rams horns.
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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

we have the halyards run to the cockpit, and one of the winter projects is to rework the reefing lines and run those back as well. IMO it is money and time well spent if you are not just primarily single-handing, but single-handing with pint-sized crew.
I really don't see a significant downside.

Sometimes it can get a little crazy, like on this catboat:






That's a pretty busy clutch farm to manage a single sail.
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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

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we have the halyards run to the cockpit, and one of the winter projects is to rework the reefing lines and run those back as well. IMO it is money and time well spent if you are not just primarily single-handing, but single-handing with pint-sized crew.
I really don't see a significant downside.

Sometimes it can get a little crazy, like on this catboat:






That's a pretty busy clutch farm to manage a single sail.
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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

To the original question: I guess it depends on the size of the boat and the crew number. If the boat is big enough (50ft up) it can be stable enough to someone to be there working with bad weather and if you have more than one able crew that is not a problem and can even have advantages (less friction).

For smaller boats, specially if they are solo sailed or sailed with the help of a wive that is not a good help (some are just better then the husband but that is not what I am talking about), going out of the cockpit in bad weather for reefing or lowering the main is a bad idea.

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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

One of the first things that I plan on with the new(to me) boat will be running the main back and installing lazy jacks. The US27 main should be small enough to handle from the cockpit and the PO said that she sails great on jib alone in heavy wind so reefing from the cockpit shouldn't be necessary.

My biggest concern is to be able to easily single hand so that the "stress" on the admiral is kept to a minimum ...LOL
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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

I also have a strong track on my mast and the halyard led back to the cockpit. It is excellent for times when you want the main sail to drop immediately (e.g. a squall appears, or whatever). You can just let the halyard go and the sail flakes itself nicely on the boom.

Making my wife deal with the mainsail is not the route to a happy marriage so i am basically on my own as far as that goes.
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Making my wife deal with the mainsail is not the route to a happy marriage so i am basically on my own as far as that goes.
Agreed. That's why she takes the wheel (while having the little guy help).

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Unfortunately my better half will be much happier reading a book than even taking the helm for a minute...LOL
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Re: Main Halyards - Back to cockpit or keep at mast?

While it sounds like a convenient thing to do and it sure would be nice to not have to make my way up, tethered, with winch handle in-hand while trying to keep the helm locked to keep pointed in the right direction, I can see some problems with lowering the sail or reefing from the cockpit. Single-handing, you can only be in one place at a time. I have everything available at the mast to raise and lower sails, reef, put the ties on the main if lowering completely, adjust the cunningham or downhaul, and hang the slack line. It just seems like a lot of extra lines and things to get fouled for doubtful real benefit and I feel like I'd be going up there anyway.

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