haul out or hurricane hole? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By chef2sail
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12-08-2012
brokesailor's Avatar
SV Skalliwag #141
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Homeport: Solomons, Maryland
Posts: 640
Thanks: 11
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 7
brokesailor is on a distinguished road
haul out or hurricane hole?

Reading about Niftynickers has got me thinking if a boat would have a better chance in a storm anchored properly in a hurricane hole or hauled out. During Sandy I had Skalliwag hauled out but she was sitting at the waters edge. A storm surge of 5 ft and she would have floated away. Are there any statistics either way?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 12-08-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 9,481
Thanks: 10
Thanked 158 Times in 144 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

All insurance companies, who's profitability is based on actuarial statistics, prefer you haul out.

However, they are playing the big picture odds. As you point out, where you haulout, how close its level is to surge, how protected the lot is from wind and other boats falling over and how well you block your own, will all affect your specific odds.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 12-08-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 675
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 6
lancelot9898 is on a distinguished road
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

I spent a few years in the Solomons area and if you look at the history the last major hurricane to hit that area was in the 1930's. or there abouts... The drum point lighthouse was then located out at drum point and the water lever rose to at least the first deck lever of that structure. I think most yards there in Solomons would have been flooded. The last hurricane to hit there was Gloria in 1985 with other later ones being downgraded to tropical storm status. In Gloria I anchored out in a brand new boat in one of the hurricane holes up the Patuxent. Never again.... even though we survived it OK on a single 35 lb CQR with 80 ft of chain spliced to 5/8 inch 3 strand nylon and with a 25,000 lb plus displacement boat. Now I would use tandem anchors and hope that no one else anchored around me and not stay aboard but head as far away as possible. Solomons is a great place to sail out of.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 12-08-2012
MarkofSeaLife's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,548
Thanks: 33
Thanked 95 Times in 78 Posts
Rep Power: 5
MarkofSeaLife is on a distinguished road
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

I dont think he means the Solomons as in the country in the Pacific.

I think it must be dependant on the local area.

In St Martin in the Caribbean one boat yard dug a trench and puts boat in the trench at thew bginning of the season. dirt is piled up round the sides so you are like in a sea of dirt....

but theres no surge there.

some hurricane hoes fill fas.... others are vacent...
__________________
Sea Life
Notes on a Circumnavigation:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 12-08-2012
chef2sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,050
Thanks: 30
Thanked 57 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 8
chef2sail will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to chef2sail
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

Solomons Island, Pautuxant River, Maryland
MarkofSeaLife likes this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
___________________________
S/V Haleakala (Hawaiian for" House of the Sun")
C&C 35 MKIII Hull # 76
Parkville, Maryland
(photos by Joe McCary)
Charter member of the Chesapeake Lion posse

Our blog-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


“Sailing is just the bottom line, like adding up the score in bridge. My real interest is in the tremendous game of life.”- Dennis Conner
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 12-08-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,382
Thanks: 6
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 4
Seaduction is on a distinguished road
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

Marker at Solomons.
Attached Thumbnails
haul out or hurricane hole?-marker.jpg  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 12-08-2012
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 69
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
CarolynShearlock is on a distinguished road
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

It's definitely a location specific choice -- the exact nature of where you'd be hauled out and how they prep the yard (two yards, side by side could have very different outcomes) and ditto on the hurricane hole (how well protected from the direction the storm actually hits from, your ground tackle, your neighbors' ground tackle and so on).

I'd go on gut feeling about the actual choices and the storm forecast. My experience in hurricanes is that there are no absolute answers . . . until after it has passed.
__________________
Carolyn Shearlock

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 12-09-2012
Andrew Burton's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 75
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Andrew Burton is on a distinguished road
Re: haul out or hurricane hole?

We are in Newport. When Gloria was making a bee line for here, I took a look at the chart and figured I was about 20 hours sail from the hurricane hole capital of the world, Maine. Sailed up there. Found a nice spot with only the three boats that came with me and dropped hooks, ran lines to trees, etc. We were nice and snug and that's my default hurricane plan ever since.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hurricane Hole - How to Choose mdi Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 15 05-17-2012 01:13 AM
How to make a 1/2 through hole a 1 1/2 through hole? SanDiegoChip Gear & Maintenance 44 04-26-2010 08:09 PM
Hurricane hole kmdudley7 General Discussion (sailing related) 1 04-16-2009 12:47 PM
First haul-out sailhog Gear & Maintenance 6 08-26-2007 01:53 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:51 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.