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Re: Pumpout Costs

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Northport, Port Jeff, Doering Harbor, Montauk, Stonington, Essex, Port Judith all had pump out boats free last year.. ( no we dont make that much crap to have to pump out at all of them)
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Ridiculous.

You really want to get mad, Fort Meyers just had a 100,000 gallon spill of untreated raw sewage about 8 weeks ago.
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Re: Pumpout Costs

Thankfully, we head offshore so often, we only pump out a handful of times per year. Most often, they barely work and almost never empty the tank.

If society wants to make a difference, it should be free and should come to you. Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone owes us anything. I'm only saying that you can't legislate good behavior, you have to incent it or motivate it.

My poopy pumping props go to Nantucket Harbor. It's free and they will arrive at your boat quickly, with properly operating equip and a friendly operator. Absolutely no reason not to call them.
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Re: Pumpout Costs

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That's all "east end" stuff, Suffolk County. Of course, Suffolk County also charges some homeowners sewer tax--when the municipal lines were never hooked up to the houses.

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If Rick Scott has his usual way, he'd make theboaters pay for the drug tests, the same way he tried to have welfare recipients pay for their own drug tests. Y'all be careful what kind of ideas you plant in his head. Your $25 pumpout will become $100 once they include the drug tests. And it will be mandatory.
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Re: Pumpout Costs

Ah me ... there is just so much mischief that could be had with this thread ......
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Re: Pumpout Costs

I agree with you, Brian. Especially considering that the state has already gotten into it and created what sounds like a semi-monopoly there to control water quality. If they're going to do that, they need to finish the job and control pumpout costs. Maybe a nominal fee, like $5 to use the pumpout facilities, if not free.
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Re: Pumpout Costs

When Connecticut went for a "No Discharge" zone several years ago, it was necessary to provide evidence to the Federal EPA that there were enough pump out facilities that it was actually feasible to have such a zone. I believe this was standard operating procedure when a state wanted to enforce a "No Discharge" zone

Rhode Island got their "no Discharge" zone before we got ours at the eastern end of Connecticut. We followed at our end of the state by establishing the zone starting from the Rhode Island border and incrementally working to the west. I don't know how it worked at the other end of the state.

In our area all of the pump outs that I'm aware of are free. Most--probably all- were at least subsidized by the State. The "free" pump out boat Rob mentioned that serves the Mystic River (including Noank) is funded by the towns of Groton (lions's share) and Stonington to cover the staffing costs. The original pump out boat was a gift from the State. BTW, the Stonington contribution comes from the mooring fees on the Stonington side of the Mystic River.

The pump out boats that serve Westerly (e.g., Napatree Point) and Block Island are also free. I've always tipped them and assume most folks tip as well, because all of the operators I've encountered seem to be a cheerful lot. Let's keep it that way!
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Re: Pumpout Costs

All marinas in Auckland NZ have free pump-outs - no payment at all, even passing vessels can just turn into the marina, pump their tanks and sail on out. Don't have to take on fuel, don't have to rent a berth, just arrive, pump and leave if that's what you want. Sometimes they are not working, mostly they are.

Mostly nobody helps you, you do it yourself and some places have real sophisticated setups and they man them themselves.

Logic dictates that if the local council wants sailors to help keep the water clean then they must help the sailors by providing the necessary facilities.

But when did logic ever enter the psyche of any local council?
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Did I read that the municipality provides a free pumpout?

Several issues come to mind. Why didn't you use the free service while on the ball? They come right to you.
Salty sams doesn't have taxpayer funding. What they have is maintainence & operating costs. The fewer people who use it, the higher the per use cost becomes. Most people use the free service so their cost per use goes way up. They likely don't want the hassle of the pumpout but grudgingly provide it. You won't be buying pumpouts there again and they're likely happy with that.

The best solution...buy a lectrasan. As someone noted here, FMB just dumped 8 million gallons of untreated sewage. So all your do-good efforts are routinely subverted by 'the man'.
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The best solution...buy a lectrasan. As someone noted here, FMB just dumped 8 million gallons of untreated sewage. So all your do-good efforts are routinely subverted by 'the man'.
Well a Lectrasan won't solve any problems if you're in a NO DISCHARGE zone. Even though it's treated, you still can't pump it overboard.
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