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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

Yes, I guess I need to avoid fixating on a particular boat, lots out there.

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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

If you want/need wheel steering I really don't see the point of buying a (rather generic) boat that has a tiller. It's a pretty big job - do-able, but still... and odds are that there is an example with a wheel that's ready to go.. somewhere nearby. Also maybe not get fixated on any one boat at this point.. keep an open eye and open mind.

If the boat is exceptional and really pulls at the heartstrings I'd consider learning to live with the tiller rather than start cutting and drilling.
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

Yep, your looking at the wrong boat..

There will be enough to fix, repair, upgrade with any 30K boat.... you don't need to start out with a major remodel project before you even "like" it...
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

I gotta say.. I do love having wheel steering.
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

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I gotta say.. I do love having wheel steering.
I know what you mean and for cruising I agree.. I think for longish legs the wheel offers more variety of helming positions, and usually a bit of mechanical advantage though a well balanced boat shouldn't need too much of that.

For racing, though, I prefer a tiller. We owned a 40 footer with a wheel and a 24 foot day racer that was tiller steered for 12 years, so got quite used to going back and forth...
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

I'm so dyslexic I have to face the tiller when I use a stern...

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face the stern when I use a tiller?
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

Im gunna say it will cost close to $10,000
Its not a thing you can DIY sucessfully, unless you have vast, VAST experience.
I doubt a shipwright could do it well, either, i think its the type of thing thats best done by the factory during manufacture.

A wheel looks simple enough, and nothing looks at all advanced. But i thnk its one of those things thats probably belying a deep dark history of mechanical marvels.

Of all the things to screw around with this is one not to touch with a pitch fork.

Can someone who has actually done this tell me I am wrong?

I doubt its been done enough for you to find someone to do it thats installed enough for you to be confident with.

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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

Seems it would be much easier and cheaper to convince her of the advantages of a tiller over a wheel. Cheaper ,far less prone to breakdown, you get a feel for the boat, it is much easier to go forward past a tiller than having to climb around a wheel, easier docking, as you always know which way the rudder is pointing, and you can reverse it's direction instantly.
Switching from a tiller to a wheel would be a big mistake, from a practical point of view.

If pretentiousness is the motivation for the change, then a divorce would be a much better solution, possibly inevitable in the long run, anyway.
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

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Seems it would be much easier and cheaper to convince her of the advantages of a tiller over a wheel. Cheaper ,far less prone to breakdown, you get a feel for the boat, it is much easier to go forward past a tiller than having to climb around a wheel, easier docking, as you always know which way the rudder is pointing, and you can reverse it's direction instantly.
Switching from a tiller to a wheel would be a big mistake, from a practical point of view.
I agree. IMO, the only reason to go to a wheel is if you are constantly overpowered with a tiller, which is why larger boats need them. Isn't that a light race boat? If so, you definitely don't want to lose the feedback the tiller gives the Helmsman. When I use a wheel, I have to be very careful that I don't over steer, because I'm use to the direct feel of the rudder, and what it tells me. The tiller also allows me to single hand my boat much more effectively than I could with a wheel.
I recently read a thread* here about a boat that was converted, search for it. I think you will see it's a PITA project, especially if the boat doesn't need a wheel! If you live in the SF Bay Area contact me. I'll take you and your wife sailing and show her why she doesn't want a wheel (unless the boat requires it).
Edit: *Denise030 links the thread later in this thread. Read it and weep! Why, why, why? (IMHO!)
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Re: Rough cost to convert tiller to wheel

Im a bit of a noob, but having sailed a few club boats from 15' to 41', I have a strong preference for the tiller where available.

Like others have said, better feedback, better intuitive sense of exactly where the rudder is, and i personally find sitting on the high side steering with the tiller extension to give better view of the headsail telltales.
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