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Yeah they are just incendiary rounds... they contain Phosphorus. The down side is that they burn from the end of the barrel to about 200-300 ft out. The pile of wood had to have fuel on it and the round is just used for ignition. On their own they will not start much on fire... Probably could set a fiberglass boat on fire though... and they are scary as hell when fired.


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Those are also called "bird bombs". They are used to scare pigeons off of bridges and such.
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I think if you took a bunch of those loads and interspersed them with buckshot and loaded them in a Street Sweeper you could convince most pirates to change occupations.
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I think if you took a bunch of those loads and interspersed them with buckshot and loaded them in a Street Sweeper you could convince most pirates to change occupations.
No, they would just shake their heads in disbelief as you attempt stop the magnesium in the round from burning its way through your skin.

Those rounds are not meant to be shot by an autoloader. If you are lucky, the backpressure won't be sufficient to cycle the mechanism. If you are unlucky, then the round will be ejected. But since they burn for up to 2 seconds the incendiary shell will still be burning when ejected and will most certainly do the shooter damage.

We tested these types of rounds years ago and despite being a great party gag I wouldn't dream of using it aboard a ship. One couldn't use it in an enclosed or partially enclosed space and thus one would turn a powerful firearm into an expensive metal club.
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OK - I've gotta ask - there seems to have been a lot of these "what's the best weapon to carry for self-defense against pirates" threads lately....is that because there is an actual increase in piracy in the areas most people cruise?
Ironically, worldwide, is just the opposite.

Report: Sea piracy drops to lowest level in four years - CNN.com

Areas that most people cruise have none, such as New England.
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OK - I've gotta ask - there seems to have been a lot of these "what's the best weapon to carry for self-defense against pirates" threads lately....is that because there is an actual increase in piracy in the areas most people cruise?
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Ironically, worldwide, is just the opposite.

Report: Sea piracy drops to lowest level in four years - CNN.com

Areas that most people cruise have none, such as New England.
Don't bring facts into the discussion, it would spoil all the fun for the would-be Rambos. When you are actually out cruising there are lots of things to worry about, pirates are so far down the list as to be non-existent. A prediction, piracy is so much in decline in the Western Indian Ocean that circumnavigations will routinely be going the Red Sea route within three years, although having gone the Cape route if someone asked I would suggest coming this way.
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OK - I've gotta ask - there seems to have been a lot of these "what's the best weapon to carry for self-defense against pirates" threads lately....is that because there is an actual increase in piracy in the areas most people cruise?
Ironically, worldwide, is just the opposite.

Report: Sea piracy drops to lowest level in four years - CNN.com

Areas that most people cruise have none, such as New England.
While piracy worldwide - primarily against merchant shipping - may be on the decline, there have definitely been some incidents within the past year or so in areas before considered to be relatively safe, that should give cruisers pause... The recent attacks in Belize, and Bocas del Toro, are just two such examples...

Cruisers will simply have to modify their notion of what constitutes "Paradise", it seems to me...

Although there might not be a palm tree in sight, I'll chose the sort of place where a stranger might inform you that the keys are always left in that pickup truck over there, if you should want to borrow it to make a run to the general store a couple of miles down the road, over a place like present-day Honduras, every single time...

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Re: At Last! Definitive Self Defense for Sailors

Don't even get me started on the "Pirates of the Great Salt Lake"....!!
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