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Schengen - the dirty word. My European friends tell me it is a response to the US immigration and visa policies. I don't really care. What I do know is that I can't seem to find a single web site that outlines how Schengen works.

I have just finished 3/4 of the North Atlantic Loop - Florida, Bermuda, Azores, Portugal, Spain, Canaries (Spain) Sint Maarten (Netherlands Antilles)/St Marten (French West Indies.) Technically I am in France or the Netherlands depending on what side of Simpson Bay Lagoon I happen to be at the moment. Reboot's travels are well documented since I have check into and out of each port of call. Mine, not so much: My passport is a mess. I was in Bermuda - stamp - the Azores - got a stamp. When to mainland Portugal - no stamp. Went to mainland Spain - no stamp. Canaries - stamp. St. Marten French West Indies - no stamp.

The less paranoid would say - great - no problem. They also travel to Cuba as Americans. I am part on the more paranoid. I spent most of my time in Europe worried that some immigration guy who got out of the wrong side of bed would decide my 90 days were up and throw me out into bad weather, without fuel, water and provisions because (s)he could. This is of course complicated by the fact that in many places there are no immigration people to talk to or stamp your passport.

I have searched the Internet for a decent, comprehensive and accurate description of how Schengen works (i.e. I don't even know if I am currently in Schengen - and when I go to Martinique and Guadalupe which are "departments" of France does that put me in Schengen?) The web references are terrible - they say 90 days no problem - more than that you need a visa. Go to the embassy of the country you want to visit and apply. (That means, for example, I have to fly to Miami since I need to be in the US (apparently) and then pick a country (since I expect to be in a whole lot of them) and a date (when I have to show up it would seem) Wikipedia has some help - but do I trust Wikipedia?

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Re: Schengen - Help

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Re: Schengen - Help

I agree the whole schengen thing is a nightmare for visitors. I am glad we Brits stayed out.

The best description, that I know of, as it affects visiting CRUISERS is on Noonsite.

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Now re the French islands in the Caribbean I 'THINK' schengen does not apply. The formalities are most often carried out in a beach side bar where you fill out a form on a computer, print it out and the barmaid stamps it. Job done. No customs officer or immigration officer involved.
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USA - the dirty world.


have you ever tried to travel to that s*** hole USA with European passport.
especially recent years and since that gestapo style homeland security or whatever they are calling themselves.

second, no one call you to Europe, why you are coming over here.

I would not go to usa even if they pay me.
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It goes to show there are morons on both sides of the Atlantic.

Shengen is nothing to do with America, and the USA Customs and Border Protection have been excellent in the US, really good, really happy to see a cruiser and only too willing to help.

Now, if the OP could come an repost with something intelligible we can help him... And it might get rid of the idiots from this thread.


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USA - the dirty world.


have you ever tried to travel to that s*** hole USA with European passport.
especially recent years and since that gestapo style homeland security or whatever they are calling themselves.

second, no one call you to Europe, why you are coming over here.

I would not go to usa even if they pay me.

Those are words best spoken face to face.
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Those are words best spoken face to face.
No really. It's OK, I met him. He was wearing a beret and looked like he hadn't had a bath in a long time. She was cute and flirty, probably because she had someone, anyone, to talk to besides him. I bought them a shot and a beer. The poor bastard couldn't afford reciprocate but he did offer me some hash and told me all about Bush and US foreign policy. Most of what I could understand was Bush *******, USA shite, I doubt his French was much better. That hash must have been good because he never noticed how long his girlfriend and I where gone when we left together to find a rest room. When she was done she said she couldn't put up with him for much longer and begged me for train fare to get herself back home. I wiped her mouth, kissed her on the cheek and gave her 50 Euros.

He owes me a beer.
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Yep, we found him. He's the lager lout!
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It goes to show there are morons on both sides of the Atlantic.

Shengen is nothing to do with America, and the USA Customs and Border Protection have been excellent in the US, really good, really happy to see a cruiser and only too willing to help.

Now, if the OP could come an repost with something intelligible we can help him... And it might get rid of the idiots from this thread.


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And the Shengen has been great to Europeans that now can travel all over EC without passport and even without stopping at boarders, with the exception of UK. The last time I was there we had to wait in queue for 45 minutes and then more half an hour while they look suspiciously over my wive's passport with a magnifying glass before clearance was given. No way they will have us there again.

Maybe when Scotland becomes independent and join Shengen. I have 20 bottles of whiskey there to pick, on a distillery on an Island. It would be nice to pick them by boat, as on the old times Just waiting them to come to Shengen before do that to be hassle free. No problem with the whiskey getting older on an oak cask

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