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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

I may be biased, but if finances are tight, a Venture 17 will set you back about $1/lb. of displacement. Listed at 800 lbs. I love mine. You backpack? A V17 has enough cabin to give you storage and living area on a rainy day. Maybe even with a friend (a close friend, at least) I usually sail single hand and the biggest problem I have is finding someone to hold the bow line while I "jerk" the trailer to launch the boat on these silly short/shallow ramps around here.

They were a good-selling boat in the late 60's and early 70's so there is a lot of them out there. The original trailers seem to hold up well too. Mine has fullsize wheels and car tires, not toy-sized trailer wheels - maybe that helps?

Back to the boat - simple rigging, no winches needed. I led all lines to the cockpit and I added a jib downhaul and a topping lift. Spinnakers are doable, but I don't have one.

I've been out in 20+ kt. Winds and 6+ plus waves (not breakers) and was having fun and staying dry. I know that doesn't sound impressive to someone on a 34 footer, but it's kind of like going 75 mph in a go-kart is a lot wilder than 75 in a Camry.

The Ventures were made by MacGregor and have that "cheap production boat" reputation. Yeah, they aren't Hinkleys. But I've bounced off enough docks and run into my own trailer enough to appreciate the design. Home Depot is my primary chandlery, but if you want to take it to a higher level all those dinghy racing (Lightning, Flying Scot) bits are sized to fit a boat like this. A 2 HP egg beater scoots it around nicely and it'll plane under sail.

Cast iron swing keel is maintenance free and allows you to run right up on a sandy beach. Then shove off, and use the bow eye and pulpit to climb onboard without getting wet above your knees!

I have mine loaded down for world travel or post-apocalypse survival (I read too many "Blue Water" books and provision accordingly) and I get near hull speed easily in mild breezes.

I see more Venture 21s than 17s. Apparently there's also a 19. They are all within 300 lbs. of each other.
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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

For Florida sailing you might find a Catboat just your cup of tea. Take a look at CBA: Cats4Sale FALL 2012 Bulletin No.159
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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

Here are two. San Francico Great Pelican San Francisco Great Pelican Sailboat and 15 ft Gaff rigged CAT Sloop Sailboat 15 foot fiberglass
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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

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Here are two. San Francico Great Pelican San Francisco Great Pelican Sailboat and 15 ft Gaff rigged CAT Sloop Sailboat 15 foot fiberglass
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The Pelican definetely has character.
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That Pelican makes my fingers and my wallet itch.
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That Pelican makes my fingers and my wallet itch.
It my be too far for original poster ? He said he was in Florida, but don't
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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

I'm near Daytona Beach. Alot of good suggestions! I don't know if I'll get the wife to sign off on spending a bunch of money, but I don't mind traveling a bit, maybe 4-6 hours?

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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

This is my first post, so I can't post links yet, but if you do a Google search for "pocket cruiser guide shortypen" you will find a nice list of pocket cruisers that includes loa, weight, keel type, and draft. Each entry also has a link to more info for each boat.

Should give you lots of ideas and options to consider that meet your criteria.

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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

Here's the link Mike mentioned above, and he's right, it is a good resource.
http://www.shortypen.com/sailboat-guide/pocket-cruiser/

dj, we can throw our favourite small boat choices at you until spring, but it just wastes your time and ours if the vital ingredient of the boat search is missing:
The budget.

The right boat for you with $2000 in your pocket is different from the right boat for you with $5000 in your pocket or $10000 in your pocket.
If your budget is south of $10K, I think a WWP 17 is a great choice, a WWP 19 is an ever better choice if you've got a bigger budget, or a Siren 17 if you like centerboard boats, a Halman or Nordica 16 if you like double ender full keel boats, a Halman or Nordica 20 if your budget is $5K or better.
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Re: Looking For Very Tiny Pocket Cruiser - help?

1+ on the V17.

or the 'hen' types for more $ (marsh peep,... )



I own a mac 26 classic, and its a very large 26' boat.

imho, macgregor is one of the best at trailer sailing. for launching and retrieval.

the newer powersailers are not very good sailboats, and 4x as much $ ... but also an entry to sailing for many who would otherwise buy powerboats.
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