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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

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The most expensive was running your diesel to charge batteries.
That is, if you are running the motor just to charge the batts. If you are running the motor to get from A to B, then it wouldn't burn too much more fuel with the drag on the alternator charging the batts. That Nigel Calder article was good. I don't remember where I saw it.
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

The Mac 26s has a draft of less than a foot, if you run aground, you just get out and push, The mast on the Mac is very easy to lower for going under bridges too so no problem there. I would go over size on the outboard, say 10-15 hp at least with alternator. All the replies about solar are good as well as having a small portable generator for days when you need lots of power to get back up to charge. Having 2 deep cycle batteries is also needed. Good coolers should hold you between ports all the way around, a refridge is a big energy hog. I think your choice of the Mac is a good one if you don't mind the "Camp out" type cruising this boat does well.

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I think your choice of the Mac is a good one if you don't mind the "Camp out" type cruising this boat does well.
Camping out cruising works for me, better than a day at work
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The Great Loop...

Best done in a powerboat, although a Mac 26 would be a pretty good "blend":
I'd love to do the loop. Being situated in NH, I'd want to go north up the coast & come down the seaway thru the 1000 islands. From there work my way over to superior & spend couple of seasons floating around that lake. That would be the trip of a lifetime!
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

I would love to do the Loop too, I think I could get my wife onboard for that trip a lot easier than crossing an ocean. This is a trip I've wanted to do since high school when I got my first boat. We could do it in my Hunter but we'll probably move up a bit in size for that trip. Haven't decided on sail or trawler yet though.

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I hoping I might get some advice from those of you with far more experience than I. My first major voyage is going to be in a 26ft. Macgregor -S. (yet to be purchased) I am going to do “The Loop.”
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There's an article about the Loop in Southwinds Magazine that you may want to check out. Florida & Southern Sailing Information - SOUTHWINDS | Sailing & Cruising - Florida - the South

A couple with a Macgregor is doing the loop & mentioned they were stepping & unsteping thier own mast & it took about 15 minutes from start to finish. They also had something like a 70 hp motor on the back of their boat.
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

The larger motors that some posters have referred to are mounted on a Mac 26M or X. (they are the newer MacGregor "power sailers" (cross between a power boat and a sailboat) The Mac26s usually have an 8hp.
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

Modern 8hp's generally have a alternator that puts out 4amps (even my 1984 Suzuki 8hp 2 stroke does).
Bigger engines do even more.

Ten hours of motoring = 40 amps a day or more (if motoring at an appropriate RPM).

A small Norcold or Engels style 12v cooler will consume most of that - and last until morning staying cold/frozen. Turn it on when the motor is running, off when it's not and it will work.

A small regulated 60-80 watt solar panel will provide for the rest, feed it to a couple of 100 amp batteries as a house bank and starter for the motor.
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

I'm upgrading my C25 with a new engine this spring. My research shows that almost every new 9.9hp 4str OB puts out 6A of power (Tohatsu, Nissan, Yamaha...) the Honda puts out 12A.

If you're still putting the whole package together, it might be worth the extra bucks for a Honda.
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

Wind Generator technology has just about maxed out, solar on the other hand is just starting to take off. So I am going to go with a wind generator now and when solar technology improves (technology also includes better manufacturing techniques ) resulting in smaller, more powerful and cheaper solar panels... I will go with solar. I don't think it is an either or question, both have advantages.
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