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I'm upgrading my C25 with a new engine this spring. My research shows that almost every new 9.9hp 4str OB puts out 6A of power (Tohatsu, Nissan, Yamaha...) the Honda puts out 12A.

If you're still putting the whole package together, it might be worth the extra bucks for a Honda.
Keep in mind none of those engines put out their rated amps at the normal rpm that you are usually running them at.
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... My first major voyage is going to be in a 26ft. Macgregor -S. (yet to be purchased) I am going to do “The Loop.” ...
We have an S and got by....



.... with 180 watts of solar with a fridge, fan, computer, CPAP machine and some other items and increased it to 200 when we got home.

I'd forget the wind charger for a boat like ours. You are going to get a lot more for the buck with solar. Also you could....



...build a gen-set like....

Macgregor 26S Outside Mods page 13

...we did and have extra power anytime you needed it.

You can find it and lots of other mods (40+ gallons of water, 19 gallons of fuel, gen-set, enlarged V-berth, moved the head, lots more storage, etc.) here...

Macgregor 26S Index

and the trips here...

Macgregor Trips-1 Index

The S would make the trip if you can , but for some would just be too small for a trip that long. We like our S, but an X might actually be a better boat for that trip. You aren't going to do much sailing anyway.

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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

I think it may well have as much to do with what your plans are for after doing the loop. If you plan on keeping the boat for a long time then perhaps a bigger boat that can hold more solar. If you are just doing to loop and don't want to keep the boat, perhaps a small trawler or cruiser is better suited to the trip. Perhaps even a small sailboat that has an inboard that can produce more power and not worry about expensive modifications that will not increase the value of the boat.
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Warranty speak? Not unless they're looking to scare people away.

100% less 10% = 90% in the second year. 81% in the third year.... 38+% in the tenth year, which most of us would call totally unacceptable and way below industry standards.
Hell most of us would call them unacceptable after 3-4 years at that rate of loss.

Remind me, what brand is that I'm not interested in buying? And what kind of panel output loss have you actually seen?
Maybe it was 10% over the whole lifetime?
If so that's excellent. You're right 10% pa is too much...
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I would be very interested if this is a growing trend, I have seen them on yachts and super yachts but not to often on common sailors. I know there is a couple of veggie boats around.........,
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Hippie Sailors =)
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Re: Solar panels vs. wind or forget it?

The mention of output loss with age are just one of the bugs in solar cells I am waiting to get worked out, as things stand now technology in solar is about to start moving forward in leaps and bounds....I would wait on solar.
Because both have advantages and disadvantages I would rather go with both (you would be able to get smaller/cheaper units if you had both). I have a small boat and equally small budget. The only place I have room for a wind is on a mast on the stern...solar, that would be really tough.
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