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Re: Paradigm changing boats

Somebody already mentioned the Westsail 32. I think for a lot of people that was a major game changer. The idea of being able to sail the world in a bullet proof, economical boat was a new concept. The fact that a lot of them were bought as bare hulls and many were never completed by the original owners aside, it still opened up world cruising to the masses (well, relatively speaking:-)).
I think the other one I would add to the list would be the Thunderbird, still lot's of them around and active fleets racing.
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Re: Paradigm changing boats

I agree regarding the T-bird, if only because it demonstrated that a reverse sheer didn't have to be ugly. but, having said that, I think the Thunderbird's forerunners, the Controversy boats, may be the paradigm changers because they led the way:

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Mac 26X/M. Any boat that could convert power boaters to sailing and vice versa is a paradigm shifting boat. You may not like the spork, but it has changed the sailing marketplace and the sailing world for a whole bunch of families.
aaarrrggghhh.... have to agree with this one (going to look for mouthwash...)

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I agree regarding the T-bird, if only because it demonstrated that a reverse sheer didn't have to be ugly. but, having said that, I think the Thunderbird's forerunners, the Controversy boats, may be the paradigm changers because they led the way:

The Rest of the Designs

Thanks for that, bl... hadn't heard of them before.. do you have the year they started? Are they all plywood projects - some appear to be soft chine designs..
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Re: Paradigm changing boats

What about the big sell out? Yacht designer Robert Perry said that, "If you were like me, you probably did a near retch the first time you saw an Out Island 41." Annapolis naval architect Jack Horner reacted with disappointment with the introduction of the Out Island. He thought that Charley Morgan had sold out, "I thought Morgan had betrayed his traditional roots and sacrificed elegance and balance for volume and headroom." The Morgan Out Island was the most prolific in production for a boat over forty feet for many years and the first to raise the freeboard to the top of the cabin trunk that became popular. What was considered gauche in the seventies is now surpased with the high freeboards of the Hunters, Beneteaus and Catalinas now. 'Not a trend approved by all, but a true paradigm shift.
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Faster, some history of the Controversy boats can be found here:

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Re: Paradigm changing boats

Macgregor has made sailing very accessible with their entire line of boats and continues to this today. The 26M/X set the bar in the trailer sailor world and has no equal.

I also believe the Macgregor 65 is the fastest production monohull to date.

Watch a boat ramp and Macgregor after Macgregor will roll down it - what a legacy.

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I also believe the Macgregor 65 is the fastest production monohull to date.

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There are many production boats way faster.

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I'm curious - what?

In it's price range and run, I'm not aware of any faster Than the Macgregor 65. There are faster pure racing boats but not production cruisers.

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Re: Paradigm changing boats

THe santa cruz 52 and 70 were equal to slightly faster, and a minute faster for the 70. Schock 40, a production cruisable canting keel on par, A number of Swans in the 50-70' range, not to mention the 45 and NYC club swan 42. J145 nd 160, Nelson Merek 68, to name a few. Not sure ALL are in the same price range, but all have 0 to -60+ phrf handicaps, the MG65 is 0 to -40 from looking at a us sailing rating chart.

The santa cruz versions really started the fast is fun part too.

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Re: Paradigm changing boats

Yes.. The SC 50 probably deserves a mention here...
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