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Re: make a gale sail

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Do you have a photo or description of soft hanks? They sound interesting and I have bits of Amsteel to play with. Are they basically soft shackles?
Yup... just a soft shackle the appropriate size to clear the luff tape on this sail. I'm a little worried using metal hanks on the synthetic stay. With the pressure that would be applied by the storm jib in bad conditions, I think the soft hank is the way to go. Also, they are insanely strong and slide easy! They only negative is that they take longer to load on the stay. Again, with the sail bagged, and sitting on the deck, I already have that done when the weather is nice.

Haven't used it yet in anger. Now that I have it installed, I'm sure the gods will let me sail for a long time before testing it out.
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Re: make a gale sail

We carry a storm jib with sleeve.
I believe I saved about $1500.00 having my local loft make it versus the ATN Gale Sail. Have you ever priced one of those things? Unbelievable.
Having said that, I have a huge fear of trying to rig it and my thought process has always been, make sure it is up and ready to go long before the stuff hits.
I really can't see breaking it out, I would rather roll up the jenny to the second mark or beyond if needed. I will deal with the bad sail shape.
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Re: make a gale sail

The 60 sq. foot gale sail...costs about $800.00. The 100 sq. ft about $1,000.

I see them pop up on ebay from time to time.
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The 60 sq. foot gale sail...costs about $800.00. The 100 sq. ft about $1,000.

I see them pop up on ebay from time to time.
Thanks for clarifying that.
I remember it being more than I was willing to pay.
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Re: make a gale sail

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I might worry about the machine screws working or just pulling out under high load if they are just tapped into the aluminum. Have you seen the mast hounds that are available? Rigging Only in Fairhaven Mass. has them in their on-line catalogue:
Rigging Only - External Mast Hound for 5.2x8 mast section 1/2" pins
It may be wise to weld on a strap around the mast so that the machine screws have shear load instead of an angular load.
Have a look at the picture once more

The machine screw is not tapped into the aluminum.
The tang is made in two parts. You make a slot in he mast and thread the two halves in so the flanges sit inside the mast.
The purpose of the screws is to prevent the tang from falling into the mast.

A neater solution than the mast hounds.
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Re: make a gale sail

Aha. Now I see it. That makes more sense and a neat job. I'm planning to make up a mast hound type fitting for a second, inner forestay just above the spreaders so I can have a couple of running backstays. I considered a Solent but decided an inner stay would probably be better for my boat. The most difficult part of designing one is how to secure the deck fitting below. I'm planning on a removable pc. of wire/turnbuckle in the cabin that can be attached right down to a hefty cross-member glassed in low below the cabin floor.
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Re: make a gale sail

Thanks all. I know that you can send the sail to them for them to do it. But at $22 dollars a foot it seems a bit crazy given I am fully capable. I'd rather keep that money in my pocket! Seems no one has done it on there own though. Is anyone willing to share detailed pictures with me so that I can see how it is done a little better? There really aren't that great of pictures on line.

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Re: make a gale sail

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ATN site offers to do it for $22.00 per foot of Luff length. You could try giving them a call.

ATN Sailing Equipment | The Gale Sail | Easy Handling Storm Jib
We converted our hank-on storm jib to a Gale Sail by having ATN add the necessary flaps, tape and lugs. We keep it and the sheets in a ready bag in our cockpit sail locker. One must also have ties that will secure ones working sheets to the furled sail although, once the Gale Sail is in place they will be enclosed and secured and, unless one's sheet leads will take two sheets, one must also have spare sheet leads or snatch blocks ready to go in place to take the sail's sheets. Rigging the sail is usually done while running off and, if the sail is folded properly only the luff needs project from the sail bag while hanking the flap over the furled jib. The hoist once everything is ready is really not that difficult but the noise can be a bit unnerving until the luff is tightened and the sheets set up.

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