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SailingChance 01-21-2013 10:13 AM

make a gale sail
 
I'm considering converting our storm jib into a gale sail. Does anyone have experience doing this? I can't find anything on forums or blogs about people doing this so I was wondering if there was a big reason why. Any tips or tricks appreciated.

Thanks.

Kelley
www.sailingchance.com

chef2sail 01-21-2013 12:58 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SailingChance (Post 978815)
I'm considering converting our storm jib into a gale sail. Does anyone have experience doing this? I can't find anything on forums or blogs about people doing this so I was wondering if there was a big reason why. Any tips or tricks appreciated.

Thanks.

Kelley
Sailing Chance | Sailing through the Caribbean | Sailing Chance | Sailing through the Caribbean

Are you meaning to slip it over an existing furled head sail, Is that what you are trying to do? Your storm jib is constructed to go from the top to the bottom of the headstay this giving you good pointing ability. The Gale sails I have see really only covers the middle third of that span

Dave

Tempest 01-21-2013 01:11 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
ATN site offers to do it for $22.00 per foot of Luff length. You could try giving them a call.

ATN Sailing Equipment | The Gale Sail | Easy Handling Storm Jib

killarney_sailor 01-21-2013 01:38 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
I have looked at Gale Sails and have difficulty imagining how you would get it rigged in the conditions where you would need it. In the demo videos it looks really easy but there are no waves and it looks like 12-15 knots of wind. Have you looked at options that would allow you to use your storm jib on a removable inner stay or even without a stay if it has a wire luff and you can tighten the halyard hard. Won't point well, but that is unlikely to be a deal breaker.

funjohnson 01-21-2013 01:53 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
We ended up installing a Solent Stay for this very reason. Trying to slide the Gale Sail up during anything more than 20 knots seemed impossible. Now, we have the storm jib hanked, bagged, and waiting at the solent stay. All in all, if you can install it yourself, you'll have about $400 into the stay.

We bought the Wichard 9150 mast tang, two Facnor thimbles, two Wichard folding padeyes, Wichard Babystay Adjuster, and our stay is made of Amsteel Blue. You just need to cut a notch into the mast, mount the padeyes on deck with one acting as a backing plate, and glass a strong attachment point to the hull to keep the deck from flexing. I did most of this in Oriental NC while waiting for the tide to change.

Bene505 01-21-2013 06:06 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funjohnson (Post 978912)
We ended up installing a Solent Stay for this very reason. Trying to slide the Gale Sail up during anything more than 20 knots seemed impossible. Now, we have the storm jib hanked, bagged, and waiting at the solent stay. All in all, if you can install it yourself, you'll have about $400 into the stay.

We bought the Wichard 9150 mast tang, two Facnor thimbles, two Wichard folding padeyes, Wichard Babystay Adjuster, and our stay is made of Amsteel Blue. You just need to cut a notch into the mast, mount the padeyes on deck with one acting as a backing plate, and glass a strong attachment point to the hull to keep the deck from flexing. I did most of this in Oriental NC while waiting for the tide to change.

FunJ,

Can you post some pictures? Your approach sounds intriguing.

Regards,
Brad

SkywalkerII 01-21-2013 06:23 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
I've done this. I used a Gale Sail on my Tartan 27 and loved it. When I bought my C&C it came with an unused storm jib and storm tri. I sent the jib to ATN and they added the sleeve. Very nice. I'd do it again.

Skywalker

funjohnson 01-21-2013 07:28 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bene505 (Post 979050)
FunJ,

Can you post some pictures? Your approach sounds intriguing.

Regards,
Brad

Here is the tang:

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/n...BFF3C7B400.jpg

Mounted on the mast:

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/n...BFE3734F97.jpg

Test rigging.... again we were cruising down the ICW while I was doing this.

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/n...BFC9C2A7EF.jpg

65 sq foot storm jib with luff tape and soft hanks:

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/n...BFB761B75C.jpg

I have another storm jib with real hanks, but like the soft hanks much better. It was an easy project making them with left over Amsteel from my lifeline project.

Alex W 01-21-2013 07:32 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
Do you have a photo or description of soft hanks? They sound interesting and I have bits of Amsteel to play with. Are they basically soft shackles?

smurphny 01-21-2013 07:45 PM

Re: make a gale sail
 
I might worry about the machine screws working or just pulling out under high load if they are just tapped into the aluminum. Have you seen the mast hounds that are available? Rigging Only in Fairhaven Mass. has them in their on-line catalogue:
http://www.riggingandhardware.com/p-...n-12-pins.aspx
It may be wise to weld on a strap around the mast so that the machine screws have shear load instead of an angular load.


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