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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

"Wait for perfect weather window at Cumberland Island, GA, run close along to the FL coast until Ft. Pierce or Lake Worth, then make hard turn to port"
I was looking at that option. A bit far for a slow single-handed boat. But maybe I can qualify for the discount, homemade boat built in the 60's powered by the original 1965 A-4. Dan S/V Marian Claire
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

This has been an issue for years. It seems Florida is the only state that does not honor documented vessels and in fact, makes an effort to harass documented vessels who have no state sticker. My boat is 45 years old. I registered in NY for the first time last year to avoid the bureaucratic hassle. It's really no big deal, just one more piece of paperwork to keep track of...and one more infringement on freedom...chip, chip, chip. You would think l.e. had more important things to do.
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

Just presenting this information from "marinetitle.com" regarding Florida registration requirements:

A visitation period of 90 days is allowed in Florida for any vessel already covered by a registration number in full force and effect which has been awarded by: (1) Another state pursuant to a federally approved numbering system; (2) The United States Coast Guard in a state without a federally approved numbering system; (3) or The United States Coast Guard for a federally documented vessel with a valid registration in full force and effect from another state.

If that is the case, out of state boaters would be allowed 90 days to comply with Florida law.
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

In case one wishes to register their vessel in Florida, these are the current fees:

ANNUAL FEES TO REGISTER VESSELS
(RECREATIONAL OR COMMERCIAL)
Class Type Type of Vessel Fees
A-1 All vessels less than 12 feet in length,
and motorized canoes $12.25
A-2 12 feet or more and less than 16 feet in
length $23.00
1 16 feet or more and less than 26 feet in
length $35.50
2 26 feet or more and less than 40 feet in
length $85.00
3 40 feet or more and less than 65 feet in
length $134.50
4 65 feet or more and less than 110 feet
in length $159.50
5 110 feet or more in length $196.50
Dealer Classification $32.25
The above fee includes a $2.25 service fees; $.50 FRVIS fee and $3 Decal


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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

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"Unless you are from a state like Maryland, you have to register your documented vessel in advance before entering Florida to not be at risk of being fined. Federal Documentation is good enough for foreign countries but not for Florida."

I'm registered in MD. Does that mean that FL is reciprocal w/MD ? Or did you mean only for Fedreally Documented boats?"?

I'm a noob and confused
You're legal here in Florida for 90 days. But then....who knows when you got here????
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

It's 90 days consecutive or 183 days total in one year. So you have to go out the inlet and sail more than 3 miles offshore once in a while. Big deal.
Anyone considering sailing to Florida from another state should read the entire law. Other states have similar (and worse) laws.
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

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It just isn't the less than $200 registration fee, one must also pay sales tax of 6% minus any sales tax one paid to another state when the boat was bought.
Not if you have owned and used the boat for more than 6 months.

In that regard, Florida is no worse than any other state that charges a sales tax. If you buy your boat in one state, you can't avoid the tax by just moving it quickly to another state. You're going to have to pay it somewhere. The only way to avoid that is to buy in a state without sales tax, and keep the boat registered there for some time.

Besides, while sales tax may be an issue, this particular thread is specifically about state registration requirements.
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

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If you buy your boat in one state, you can't avoid the tax by just moving it quickly to another state.
That's why I love NH because you can avoid the sales tax.

I'm a yankee at heart, cheap. Don't want to spend a dollar unless I have to.
Does it suck that FL wants your cash in order to enjoy their sunshine?
Yes, but give me a f'n break. You own a boat, so compared to many, many people out there, you are blessed.

To complain over less than a 100 dollar bill seems pretty lame....
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To complain over less than a 100 dollar bill seems pretty lame....
It's not the bill. I can tell you haven't read much of this thread.
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Re: Many cruisers with documented vessels can not enter FL legally.

I've read thru the whole thread Roger. As frustrating as it is, if you want to play then you've got to pay. Why does this surprise anyone?
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