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I remember riding weatherside of the cabin in my parent's Grampian when I was a in my early teens. My mom hated it and dad thought it was good for me. Much different times than today

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Let me preface this by saying I'm from Florida. I'm spoiled by warm tropical waters and warm weather.

That said...

Why are sailboats designed in such a cockpit centric manner? It seems like there is a lot of wasted deck space for lounging and enjoying the ride. I would love to see more designs use the deck in creative ways.

Sure there are some lines to navigate, but I have to believe a creative designer could add more comfortable seating without sacrificing performance.

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I think you're right! Decks add a lot to a boat for me.

Old boats like ours often were given more deck space. More than cockpit size, the cost was volume below in a narrower cabin.

We use our side decks both sailing and at anchor. At anchor, side decks are often in the shade so we'll sit there using the cabin for a backrest. Not unusual that someone(s) is on a side deck on our boat while we're under sail.

Kids covered our decks over many miles of sailing, and the foredeck has always been their favorite spot to get away from the cockpit both at anchor and under sail. We appreciated that at times as much as they did.

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Re: Cockpit Centric Sailing

That was the draw of the Pearson 35 for me. It has an enormous cockpit. A lot of room for lounging. But the foredeck is still fairly limited.

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Re: Cockpit Centric Sailing

The Deck Salon models are popular for just this reason. Still in the cockpit, but they are designed to be comfortable. Like ours. We can technically seat 12, but 8 are extremely comfortable. 4 can actually lie down like they were in loungers, with two remaining helm seats for the skipper.

Some try to say the design isn't prepared for heavy seas, but we've had her in 10 footers without worrying about the cockpit design anyway.


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Re: Cockpit Centric Sailing

I've had folks sitting up on the bow in light air. No problem in light conditions as long as you keep an eye out for boat wakes.

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Re: Cockpit Centric Sailing

Problem with well seating on the bow isn't the people. It's the first time you stuff your nose into a wave. Now you have 700# of water onboard. Gonna take awhile to drain that out ... oops! just stuffed another wave. This time the boat doesn't come back up. It's bad enough when an anchor locker gets filled -- a whole forward cockpit? Ski boats swamp this way, & they have lots more forward buoyancy than a sailboat does. Foredecks are flat to shed water. Even a boat with bulwarks will spread the weight out thin, until it get out of the scuppers. A concentrated load of water, as in a lounging space, would be catastrophic. Scary enuf in an aft cockpit, which has better drainage options.

ETA: Lounge accomodations above deck level -- a bolted down sofa, eg -- are better, but then the weight is up high, the jib can't tack, and one sudden lurch & the bodies are flying. No, the human body can sit or sprawl almost anywhere. Back against the mast, wedged on a side deck, draped over a mooring bit. It's amazing how comfy a granite boulder can be, for the first couple hours. Or a snowbank. Most of comfort is in expectations.
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Ya'll burst my bow bunny bubble.


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Ya'll burst my bow bunny bubble.
No fear -- if lounging is the goal, there are plenty of other options. Like your basic hot tub boat.





Plus, no risk of disaster since the water is already inside the boat.
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-- a bolted down sofa,.

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Re: Cockpit Centric Sailing

wollard, decks are great for lounging at anchor, or when on a run...
but, the great thing about being cockpit-centric is that the helmsman is part of the party, not just a chauffeur.
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