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No Mast And Motoring

I will be spending a good bit of time on my 81 bayliner buccaneer 275 motor sailer over the winter as mother in law is coming to stay for a few months and need to get away for a few days now and then and use it as my mancave. To make things more comfortable over this period during the winter and stay out of the rain and snow I am taking down my mast temporarily so I can keep it under a covered slip for three months or a little longer and storing the mast. This boat has a four and a half foot draft with a single lead keel and a inboard 2 cylinder volvo pent. diesel. I may still want to go out motoring some over the winter with the mast down. My question is how bad will it motor without mast? It is a motor sailer hull not really rounded so will it roll terribly like this if I want to go out on the lake and just put around under motor power without mast?
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

I find a sailboat will rock less without the mast. It is when you put up sail that the boat becomes more stable . Thats why old cruisers had small sails on them....Dale
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

A sailboat sans rig is going to behave much more 'snappily' than with the rig up - it can become quite uncomfortable. Without the damping inertia of the rig aloft the boat is uber stable and while it rolls less, the return to vertical will be more abrupt coming off waves, for example.

No danger here, just a less comfortable motion esp if it gets lumpy.
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

With the mast down any kind of roll will be unbearable. Just think of a metronome.
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

Absolutely positively the worst time i ever spent on a boat was motoring the J24 from Greenport to Jamesport for winter storage with the mast down on a moderately rough day in protected water
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

Size matters. Our 40' 26,000lb boat is perfectly comfortable at the slip and motoring with the mast down. Although, I have never motored it in rough seas. At the slip, we notice less roll waves come into the marina. With the mast up, the boat would roll side to side and the mass of the mast would keep it going a few cycles. Without the mast the boat will roll to one sie and back quicker but it stops as soon as the wave passes.
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

Why not offer 'mother-in-law' the use of the boat during her stay?
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@seaduction - he won't offer the mother-in-law the boat because he likes the boat!!!!
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Re: No Mast And Motoring

I think that if you are just looking to get out and tool around on a nice day you will be just fine.

My first sail boat I practiced docking/backing/stopping, etc while waiting several days for the mast to be stepped. I chose calm evenings just to get the feel of it.

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Re: No Mast And Motoring

We just spent the summer motoring across France with the mast on deck. A bit rolly going up the Seine to Paris but the motion isn't that much different that its dangerous. For us we had to make sure the mast wouldn't roll off though!
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