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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

last boat I saw grounded was in Brigantine NJ.. Sadly it was human error as he missed Absecon Inlet and put it directly on the beach

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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

I would advise reading a couple of books dedicated to boat emergency procedures. "The yachtsman's emergency handbook" is one, and "Emergency!" is another. I think the second one is out of print but it's great. It's very easy to find the relevant information, it's concise, and the hardcover glows in the dark. a nice touch...

These books detail in words and drawings all the things you could try. Having read them ahead of time, you're ready to execute any number of these plans instead of trying to invent them on the spot in the emergency itself.

During my epic grounding incident I was able to try the following:

1. Hanging jerry jugs of fuel and water on a boom that was out to the side of the boat (didn't work).
2. Shifting crew from side to side, or fore and and aft (didn't work)
3. Powering in reverse and forward (didn't work)
4. bending several lines together and attaching them to a halyard which I attached to a kedge anchor which was perpendicular to the boat. (Worked really well!)

Another thing I did, which may really help on smaller boats, is to immediately turn on your fresh water taps. Each tap at 2.5GPM empties 20LBS/minute while you're doing the above actions.

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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

If the hull proper hasn't hit bottom, on a smaller boat with a non-winged keel, get everyone to the "deep" side to heel the boat & reduce the draft. On a bigger boat, swing the boom out and get a fat guy or two on the end of it.

Hanging a big body or two from the masthead will heel it even more.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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... don't go where you have not been before....
Can you clarify what you mean here? As written I would say that if you don't go where you've not been before you'll never go anywhere.
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Another thing I did, which may really help on smaller boats, is to immediately turn on your fresh water taps. Each tap at 2.5GPM empties 20LBS/minute while you're doing the above actions.
That's true. OTOH, you will only empty 150-200 lb out out the say 3000 lb (for a small boat) displacement. I would save the water for refreshment after the ordeal, and just throw the heaviest crew overboard.

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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

What I've heard from salvors/refloaters in general:

ground tackle put out immediately so the forces that set you aground don't set you further (or farther) aground as the tide rises or your draft decreases.

Don't lighten ship til you're ready to refloat. You don't want to bounce her on the reef and beat her to death. Before that, you might even add ballast to keep her solidly in place and not shifting.

Here in small sailboats in mud in the Gulf, we just heel her way over and try to back her out the same way we came in.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

My poor attempt at humor, the only people that have not run aground ever in the Chesapeake are those who ... don't go where you have not been before....

Sorry for the haircut.

Sounds like what I should pick up is either the glow in the dark book, or the The yachtsman's emergency handbook. I done all the ASA classes and none of them really detail well the "Oh S***, moments well enough for my tastes.

Thank you everyone for the replies, seeing that CAT in Nanny Cay really brought things home. It was parked right behind where my boat is docked. The pictures shown here -> 2013 Trip Blog and Diary 2013-02-01 don't do the damage level justice.

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We have two media upon which to go aground- soft pluf mud and sand. We've bumped into both frequently when we sailed a J24, but I didn't do it in the Olson until last week when I was out singlehanding and distracted (by facebook, of all things). I was headed out toward the jetties of our harbor and managed to drift into enough fog (visibility < 100 yds, maybe?) to convince me to head toward the south edge of the shipping channel as I have no AIS and didn't think to raise the radar deflector since this was during the day. It was very light- 4-5 mph of breeze, so I was mostly drifting out with the current and decided to go forward to clip on a spinnaker. As I was tying the bag to the toerail, I hit bottom. The worst part of it was the disorientation, since I had no idea (for the moment) where I was pointed. I finally realized where the sun was shining through (figuring that was to my south at that time of the late morning) and figured which shoal I had run upon, so I just eased the sails to stop the boat dropped the motor in reverse and got off in about 2 minutes... AFTER my little panic attack. Then I turned on my chartplotter to confirm where I was and relocate the channel marks. I'm learning, but it seems like we usually get out of mud or off of sandbars using a different method each time depending on wind conditions and bottom topography. Sometimes healing the boat by having someone lean on the boom works well. At other times, a little burst of reverse throttle in light breeze is all it takes. I've never had to make use of the anchor, but I'm sure that day is coming. The fog that's been around here this year is amazingly scary stuff... I have a new appreciation for being blind!
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

Besides all the great advice above, considering the vast majority of times I've run aground were when I was using the engine, I will often raise all my sails and use the wind to heel over as much as possible.
That has freed me more than once from a muddy situation!
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That's true. OTOH, you will only empty 150-200 lb out out the say 3000 lb (for a small boat) displacement. I would save the water for refreshment after the ordeal, and just throw the heaviest crew overboard.
Clearly beer or rum would be the preferred refreshment after such an ordeal!!!

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