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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Is there a "strategy page/link/thread" for what to do when you run aground?
Strategies include:
1) Halyard heeling
2) Motoring off
3) Sailing off
4) Kedging off
5) Towing assistance

Details for each are given here: Grounded! 5 Tips to Help when you Run Aground
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

Another time, over a decade ago, I was approaching Marsh Harbor in the Bahamas, and as I went by Man-o-War Cay, I found myself stuck on a bunch of coral heads, pounding up and down with each wave.
Damn... whichever direction I tried, I was just bouncing on them.
So, I floored my Perkins 4.236 and aimed for the lighter colored water, which was where the sand was without the coral heads.

I smashed my way over about 100 feet of heads to get "free", but had I remained where I was, that GulfStar would have been pounded to pieces in short order.

The damages were: A big chunk of the keel from the fore and another chunk from the aft sections, and the trailing corner of the rudder.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

Funny you say that DougSabbag. I just did a mental recap, every time I have run aground, or have been on a boat that has...we have been under power. Not once have I ever been under sail...weird. Well, I'll have to fix that problem!!!!

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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Funny you say that DougSabbag. I just did a mental recap, every time I have run aground, or have been on a boat that has...we have been under power. Not once have I ever been under sail...weird. Well, I'll have to fix that problem!!!!

Nice yacht in that header! did a google search on it, the following headline was the first thing that came up on cruisers forum...S/V Triumph Lost In Atlantic!!
Friend's Boat Sinks 800 Miles Off Cape Cod - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
Well, there was a time when we were 6 miles off the coast of Marco Island on the West side of Florida, under full sail, and we ran aground. SIX MILES off the coast! Surprised me a lot.

Anyway, that story you ran into was of the demise of a 1975 GulfStar 50 ketch on July 27th 2011, roughly 1000 miles East of Boston. Now we have a 1986 Tai Chiao CT 56 ketch, and thankfully, we both survived.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

I have always been told by the "old salts" that if you are unable to back off or it is not safe to back off immediately put out a kedge anchor in the deeper water and tighten it up.

On a rising tide, the kedge will keep you from drifting further aground. Continue to tighten up on the kedge as the tide comes in and you will float off.

If the tide is falling, the kedge will buy you time to try other means of floating the boat and keep you from regrounding if you manage to get unstuck.

Here is the Pardey's excellent demonstration of kedging:



http://youtu.be/3a-uyTu84YQ?t=1m9s
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

This will only work on some boats, depending on the keel configuration, but on the early C&Cs, with a "shark fin" keel, putting all your weight as far forward as you can get it can reduce draft considerably and may allow you to back off.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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Besides all the great advice above, considering the vast majority of times I've run aground were when I was using the engine, I will often raise all my sails and use the wind to heel over as much as possible.
That has freed me more than once from a muddy situation!
I've also used this method more than once on the Chesapeake Bay.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

In my first sailing course the following advise was offered:

When you run aground on Spanish Banks, the first thing you should do is take the largest towel that you have on board and use it to cover your transom.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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I've also used this method more than once on the Chesapeake Bay.
This method can easily drive you further aground if not careful.
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Re: Oh what to do? boat on rocks/reef/sand/mud

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My poor attempt at humor, the only people that have not run aground ever in the Chesapeake are those who ... don't go where you have not been before....

Sorry for the haircut.

Sounds like what I should pick up is either the glow in the dark book, or the The yachtsman's emergency handbook. I done all the ASA classes and none of them really detail well the "Oh S***, moments well enough for my tastes.

Thank you everyone for the replies, seeing that CAT in Nanny Cay really brought things home. It was parked right behind where my boat is docked. The pictures shown here -> 2013 Trip Blog and Diary 2013-02-01 don't do the damage level justice.

robert

I teach Basic Keelboat ASA and I have given lessons on how one goes aground and how one gets off.

Uh, not on purpose though ;-). We draw 6 foot 7, the Lake channels and harbors say they have 8, but not always so.

Have also given lessons on how to tack up the narrow channel when motor won't start, and how to pull youself up said canal by hand when no wind, motor uncooperative, and paddle blade broke (yeah, I know what you're going to say, ha ha, that's what the students said). How to sail into the slip when you have to.

How to wear yourself out trying to start outboard when either fuel valve or deadman's lanyard clip is wrong and you didn't think of that..

What else? How to retrieve a halyard with a makeshift chair, how to pick up real "men overboard" from another "vessel" (jetski) in lumpy weather. How to tow, and be towed. How to ride out a squall.

There may be more. None of this is in the Basic curriculum. But sometimes the best lessons come from the unexpected "teachable moment", even those created by doofus thinking on the part of yours truly, or just bad luck. Or good? Depends on how you look at it.

You'll notice I didn't put this confessional in the "Learning to Sail" topic ;-)
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