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View Poll Results: Please choose your top three criteria
Atmosphere/ Commradiere 31 57.41%
Price- overall 44 81.48%
Amenities- Pool, Bathouse 14 25.93%
Embedded in nature or in a small/ large city environement 2 3.70%
Private dock 4 7.41%
Working vs non working yard 13 24.07%
Size- Under 125 4 7.41%
Size- Over 125 0 0%
Proximity to sailing 38 70.37%
Kid friendly 4 7.41%
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Re: Criteria for choosing a marina/ yacht club

For our "home" club (our boat is trailerable, so we can take it anywhere) the number one concern was being close to home and work. I want to be able to pop over there after work and go for a sail, or if it is a really nice day, ride my bike over at lunch to sit at the dock and eat. The secondary thing is to either have a slip or at least have a parking space where we can keep the boat on the trailer with the mast up so that we can get it in the water quickly and easily and not have to rig/de-rig everytime we want to go for a sail. Everything else is a tertiary concern!
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As others have already pointed out, it has to be close to home. Nice to have;
  • near a "packie" (it's a New England thing)
As a New Englander living in a foreign land (Virginia ), I SO appreciated the reference to home!
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Cost, cost, cost, so I can have money for everything else she needs!
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Re: Criteria for choosing a marina/ yacht club

From your list I chose proximity to sailing and working yard. The other thing that I care a lot about is good dock staff and dockmaster. I started at my marina when I lived in Portland (ME) and could walk to the marina (big plus). When I moved to the Boston area a couple years ago I decided to keep the boat in Portland (easier to find slips at reasonable cost, proximity to Maine coast, etc). Having a dock staff that I know will keep an eye on the boat when I'm 2 hours away is nice.

Also, showers and laundry facilities are kind of a must have.
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Re: Criteria for choosing a marina/ yacht club

I suspect that geographic region influences choices. We live in an area subject to hurricanes. Accordingly, the relative exposure of the marina and the availability of near by "hurricane holes" or areas where one can anchor the yacht out with reasonable assurance that it will be where it was left after the event are important, if not the most important factor.

In Florida, the nature of the Club is also important. Whether it is actually a yacht club or simply a dining society (and "oh by the way we have a marina") that uses the marina to subsidize the eating/drinking habits of the non-yacht owner "members" that frequently out number the yacht owners is important. In fact, while desirable, one frequently finds that the more facilities/amenities (tennis courts, pools etc.) the more the place is like a country club/dining society and the more the yacht owners are regarded as nothing more than a revenue source.

Ease of access and proximity to sailing and home are then considerations. Fortunately for us, we've always lived in areas where one hoisted one's sails on the way out of the marina and could be/was sailing once one cleared the sea wall/breakwater. We also like to be able to get to the boat quickly. In San Francisco and later SoCal we could get to the boat within 10-15 minutes and so spent a lot of time at the Club even when not sailing. Here (South West Florida) we're about 30 minutes away and that's something of a pain in the neck and the Club is fairly remote such that if one needs a part, it's a bit of a hike to a marine outlet or hardware store.

Another factor that is often over looked is whether a Club has a good shop. Our Clubs in California--the Richmond Yacht Club in San Francisco and the Alamitos Bay Yacht Club in Long Beach--both had well equipped shops with good work benches/spaces that allowed one to make all manner of repairs "on site". Here that is rarely the case and, of course, non-yachting members cannot understand why one might want the Club to buy a drill press or grinder or whatever.

Lastly, speaking as a sailor, one needs to look at the ratio of masts verses Fly-bridges in the marina. With all due respect to power boaters, there is a decidedly different mentality in a club dominated by power boaters--and level of competence, unfortunately, (speaking as one who has had to fend off out of control power boats attempting to back into cross-wind slips in very narrow confines on more than a few occasions!).

There's more of course but these are a few of my/our considerations.

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Re: Criteria for choosing a marina/ yacht club

When we first got into sailing we looked at a couple of local options for marinas.

We are a few minutes away from quite a large lake and there are 2 - 3 marinas withing 10 minutes from our home and work places.

What made us look elsewhere were a couple of things:
  1. one of the marinas is right downtown - just off the municipal boardwalk. There is always a lot of pedestrian traffic - day an night - and a well-traveled road very close by. Didn't seem very peaceful.
  2. the boats from the municipal marina are wintered on the hard in an unsecured parking lot. It is well known that some of the boats are used as winter accommodations for local street people.
  3. the lake that the marinas are on has few to no anchorages for over-nighting. Most of the shoreline is built up with homes (monster homes) and cottages etc.

We went for a marina that is still quite close to home (40 minutes); on a body of water that gives us access to tons of anchorage, gunk-holing as well as marina options. Some great sailing - the North Channel is a 3 - 4 day sail away (less if you go direct).

The price is a little steep, but the security is good, the marina is maintained and I can often hoist my sail as I leave the marina's main channel.

We do pay for amenities that we don't use: been in the pool once - too much chlorine and too many damned kids!; tennis court - sounded like a great idea - used zero times in 6 years; laundry facilities - never used; on-site chandlery - very convenient (Too convenient! They have a policy whereby they only take debit for purchases over $5.00. I was dying of thirst and wanted a Gatorade, but, as usual, had no cash. So to bring my purchase over the $5.00 minimum I bought a Gatorade and a hand-held VHF radio. Made perfect sense at the time.) We have launch and haul on premises; boats are store on-site with indoor and indoor heated options;a mast crane; parts department; mechanics; glassing specialist; fuel dock; pumpouts; the wi-fi at the slip is spotty, but this year they've assured us that it'll be better! ; and a decent restaurant all on-site.

Our marina was recently purchased by a group that has a number of marinas on the bay. We get six nights per year free docking at each of the other marinas.

The people (other customers) at the marina run the gamut from helpful, decent, fun etc. to obnoxious, rude, dickheads. I won't say which end of the spectrum I land on.

We don't tend to stay at the marina - we usually head out right away. Although when we do stay we often have a great time with our dockmates.We have made some great friends at the marina although a couple of really close friends have recently moved to another marina close by. We will certainly miss them, but we see them more at anchorage and on the water than we do at the marina anyway, so that may not be such a big deal after all. It might give me the opportunity to actually get some work done on my boat instead of shooting the breeze for hours on end...

We are considering a move,perhaps next year. The decision will be made mostly on price. I will find it hard to give up my slip which faces into the prevailing wind.
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Re: Criteria for choosing a marina/ yacht club

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As others have already pointed out, it has to be close to home.
  • 1 hour, door to dock is my cutoff.
  • there has to be space available... I tried several that did not.
  • must allow me to work on my boat.
Nice to have;
  • good docks - the admiral would not be happy with wobbly docks.
  • pretty setting - I prefer to look at trees and homes, rather than the back of a ship yard.
  • near a "packie" (it's a New England thing)
  • food/dining nearby
Ok Ill bite...Is a packie a food store?
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Proximity to sailing, price, and proximity to home are my top three, in that order. Being in a marina that had a working yard was important initially as we gained confidence in doing a lot of our own work but that's becoming less important. When we stay in a transient slip amenities, atmosphere, and environment definitely take precedence.
I guess these are among my top "wants" as well though I guess proximity to home trumps in my case. If it were just access to what I consider the finest part of the bay, the boat would be back down in Deltaville but the boat is closer to home than that (and still in a pretty decent sailing area).

We're on our 4th marina since we started boating. In each case we considered way more than three factors to decide. How protected the slips are, how easy they are to enter and exit, access to the boat from car, access to land amenities from the slip, the atmosphere of the marina drive time from home and price all go into the mix and have been weighted differently in each case.

We have been tempted on two occasions to join yacht clubs, but like a confirmed bachelor, eventually backed out due to fear of the percieved commitment. If I lived where I could sail from Deltaville I would join Fishing Bay Yacht Club as it is the model of what I'd want from such an organization.
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Ok Ill bite...Is a packie a food store?
Packie is short for package store. What most non-New Englanders would call a liquor store. In most parts of NE, the only place you can buy liquor (and in some cases beer and wine) is a licensed liquor store.

So, not food, but an essential of sailing.
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I'm partial to a mooring.. but dream of being able to have a slip with power and water for the boat I also dream of. LOL
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