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Re: MOB Recovery in gale conditions

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BTW - if someone goes overboard, heave-to. Stop the boat.
I always wondered why this isn't emphized more in MOB training. I suppose heaving-to would be a good tactic only if the MOB is still attached to the boat, or within throwing distance of the life sling thing.
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Re: MOB Recovery in gale conditions

From a safety as sea standpoint which is pretty much the training standard in the USA




The lifesling is the retrieval tool of choice and it requires you to do a quick stop and make a turn around the victim which hopefully allows and able body person to slip the sling on at which point they can be hauled back to the boat and hoisted onboard without requiring them to do much more than stay in the sling


Obviously if you need to rescue and MOB you done a bunch of stuff wrong already
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In ISPA we use a heave to, sail to, heave to technique that is not unlike a quick stop except you heave to at end. We keep the sails up.

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Re: MOB Recovery in gale conditions

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In ISPA we use a heave to, sail to, heave to technique that is not unlike a quick stop except you heave to at end. We keep the sails up.

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Hmmm..... This may not be what I will do, but let talk openly.

1. Let's assume others on the boat will take care of throwing whatever over the boat and with multiple spotters
2. I would heave to, start the engine
3. Release all sheets
4. Head the victim via engine power
5 tighten up the sheets if it helps
6. brief others the plan to pick up the MOB

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Hmmm..... This may not be what I will do, but let talk openly.

1. Let's assume others on the boat will take care of throwing whatever over the boat and with multiple spotters
2. I would heave to, start the engine
3. Release all sheets
4. Head the victim via engine power
5 tighten up the sheets if it helps
6. brief others the plan to pick up the MOB

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I prefer the quick stop method, with heaving to at then end of the manuever. Problems happen if you don't do it quickly enough, though - you'll drift away from the victim pretty fast. Am fearful of running the engine with someone in the water, espcially in a blow with the sails up. Could chop up the victim by mistake. Think I would furl the sails before trying to motor to the MOB, if I decided to engage the engine.

Bottom line is MOB recovery in a gale is a daunting prospect.
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Bottom line is MOB recovery in a gale is a daunting prospect.
Agree, that is why i don't think Standard Operation procedures will work. It is really is dependent on the quick thinking of the captain -what is the pro's and and con's of the each technique at the time.

1. The reason I don't use or need heave to stop the boat becasue when I use the engine, I can control the speed, and will use as low speed so I still have the steering control.
2. I will pick up MOB on the leeward side. And if possible, lead the MOB toward the stern if MOB is conscious and uninjured

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Re: MOB Recovery in gale conditions

That TeamO harness/pfd is brilliant. That's on my list.
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Re: MOB Recovery in gale conditions

A visual of the heave-to, sail-to, heave-to

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A visual of the heave-to, sail-to, heave-to

Are you talking about the dingy, w/o engine MOB?
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Under sail. No engine running. This can be done by one person . Great for couples who sail together. I am sure what your dingy comment refers to.

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