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Re those Team O lifejackets (PFDs)

I was thinking about the design of the Team O lifejacket / PFD while in the shower this morning --- you know, you can do good thinking in the shower!
Anyway, I was trying to figure out how the strap goes from the front of the PFD to the back without getting caught around your neck. If you happen to fall with the strap on the hull side of the boat, it should work as shown in the videos, but if you fall the other way, ie so that the tether goes across your body as the strap is pulled out of the PFD, you could end up with the strap around your neck. That wouldn't be good.

Maybe this is why I wasn't able to find anyone selling these PDFs on the internet. One site promised they would ship to distribution in December, but I don't see anyone offering them for sale yet.
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Re: Re those Team O lifejackets (PFDs)

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I was thinking about the design of the Team O lifejacket / PFD while in the shower this morning --- you know, you can do good thinking in the shower!
Anyway, I was trying to figure out how the strap goes from the front of the PFD to the back without getting caught around your neck. If you happen to fall with the strap on the hull side of the boat, it should work as shown in the videos, but if you fall the other way, ie so that the tether goes across your body as the strap is pulled out of the PFD, you could end up with the strap around your neck. That wouldn't be good.

Maybe this is why I wasn't able to find anyone selling these PDFs on the internet. One site promised they would ship to distribution in December, but I don't see anyone offering them for sale yet.
I got a new spinlock PFD like this last year with the harness incorporated with the under the crotch straps.

click in the more info box after opening the link
https://www.spinlock.co.uk/deckvest/suggests/

I think better in the shower as long as I dont sing and scare the water away.


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Re: MOB Recovery in gale conditions

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Interesting to follow the drift of this thread..

The problem addressed in the OP was a man drowning after falling overboard while still clipped on to the boat.

So there was never a situation where getting back to the MOB was a problem.

The reason he died was that he was dragged after the boat with head under water for a while before they started the effort to get him back on board.
It took 16 minute from the MOB was discovered until he was back on board.
From the report http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources...LionReport.pdf
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This is not the first time that a man dies because he is dragged by the boat while others are trying to put him up while still attached to the jackline. I had already given some thought to it and in my opinion the better thing to do, if the man is not hurt and has a life jacket, is to cut quickly the line that attaches him to the boat and send him away with a buoy and a long line.

After that, guide him to the back of the boat, put the ladder on and recover him by the ladder. Off course all crew has to be trained and the one that is overboard should know that they are going to cut the line and send him a buoy.

After those accidents where people died attached to a harness, the lines to attach to the jack-lines started to be much shorter. 10 years ago the standard size was 1.5m, now the German ones have only about a meter and two hooks to be attached in sequence.

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