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Seriously though, circumnavigating sans instruments is pretty impressive!
Pretty stupidly dangerous and irresponsible nowadays.


But movies like Jackass shows people can do moronic things and thing they are good.
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Pretty stupidly dangerous and irresponsible nowadays.


But movies like Jackass shows people can do moronic things and thing they are good.
I completely disagree.

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Re: Circumnavigation without instruments

Josiah Slocum did this with just a Sextant and an alarm clock for a Chronometer. Plus he was the first recorded single hander to sail around the world.

And the polynisians(SP?) Did this all the time and hit the tiny islands that they were sailing for. The Vikings had a Sun Stone and a lodestone. One was for noon sight and the other acted like a compass.

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Re: Circumnavigation without instruments

Marvin Creamer a Geography professor at Glassboro State College (now Rowan University) did a number of proof of concept crossing of the Atlantic without navigation instruments or charts. The intent was to show that it was possible for early explorers to cross oceans only with knowledge of their environment.

His later circumnavigation, with crew and port stops but with an hour glass as his only navigation instrument was a further demonstration of his hypothesis.

Maybe others have also completed such a journey in the distant past, which was part of what he was demonstrating as a possibility, but I don't think this has been achieved by any other sailor in the recent past.

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I guess that's great, but I'm not quite sure what the point is. Would we celebrate someone who went to the dentist to extract a tooth with nothing more than a rock and a bit of sinew hammer? There is no doubt that it is possible to accomplish tasks in the old ways, working without the modern devices that make our efforts quicker, easier, and safer. There is also no doubt that doing so involves certain risks, as danger is increased.

There must be some way to draw a line between the efforts of bravery and perseverance versus the efforts of recklessness and stupidity. I'm just not sure how to decide which side of the fence any particular endeavor is on.

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People will do anything for notoriety. This would seem to be his major accomplishment. Now we need someone to do it blindfolded.

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I can hardly believe that anyone with an IQ over 30 wouldn't agree that this was quite a feat of seamanship .
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I can hardly believe that anyone with an IQ over 30 wouldn't agree that this was quite a feat of seamanship .
I have been lurking for a few days on this thread. I would like to see it get better? I understand it was quite a feat of seamanship ! I did check that he had back up instuments and other reduncey. I have respect for the other sailer posting that has done a cercumnavigation. He also took a huge risk in todays world and did well. His risk is far beyond what I am willing at this time. Why even leave dry land if you do not have to ? Why fly a plane or ride in one ? Drive a car ? leave the house? If you have to explain they will not understand ! Kind regards, Lou
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Re: Circumnavigation without instruments

If its such a non accomplishment to sail, with practically no instrumentation, completely around the planet, then how come we spend thousands on electronic gizmos to tell us exactly where we are at any given moment?

Sure this was unnecessary given today's technology, but it shows a level of proficiency in celestial navigation not often found in today's world. Plus I bet it was a pretty satisfying accomplishment to learn to navigate accurately sans instruments. I think it would be interesting to here the story behind it.
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Re: Circumnavigation without instruments

My $.02 on this....
This guy is a frican ROCKSTAR!!!!

I am not a fan of academics because many that I have met are not nearly as intelligent as that piece of paper tells them they are. There is a difference between education and intellect. This professor most definitely put his money where his mouth is!!

Again...just my $.02 so no offense meant to any academics out there, the intelligent ones will see my point.
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