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This is crazy

at least to me, wow.

Is the Canadian government on good standing with their decision?

Old Soviet large cruise ship just floating around the Atlantic.

Soviet ghost ship spotted off Irish coast - The Irish Times - Fri, Feb 22, 2013
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Re: This is crazy

That is crazy... hadn't heard about that at all before this.

Whether or not the govt is on solid ground, it seems irresponsible to let such a large vessel drift. How can such a large unlit object NOT present a hazard to shipping and other water traffic?

I suppose the whole liability issue is murky.. who abandoned it, who took the towing contract, who 'paid' for it, etc.

I'd be ticked if I was on the Irish coast and suddenly had to deal with 'someone else's problem'...

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Re: This is crazy

seems canadian government made decisions based on conditions at the time and should have no further connection with it--isnt this from russia with love??


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Re: This is crazy

How far is 1300 nautical miles? Seems a bit far to be 'spotted off the coast'.
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Sounds like a juicy target to test a torpedo on.....


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its a trap


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This was copied from the comments section of the article:

There is much more to this story - I live in St. John's, NL - and the Orlova was moored in the harbour for more than 2 years. It was initially in port as a 'port of call' - I gather the cruise line went bankrupt, and abandoned all cast and crew. The passengers made their way home - but the crew lived on the ship for months - having been abandoned without pay. Local 'Townies' help to feed the wayward sailors, before they finally made their way home. Fast forward about a year-and-a-half and the now rat-infested boat was bought, but when the engines were started up - they caught fire! That sale fell through, and another year later the boat was bought for scrap to be towed down to South America. The tug-boat that was brought up from the US to carry out the tow was barely seaworthy - it would never have passed Canadian inspection - but off went the Orlova....until the cable snapped....rescue efforts were abandonned.....and now the Orlova is on her way to Ireland it seems!


An interesting question of maritime law. Who is responsible for it?
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An interesting question of maritime law. Who is responsible for it?
Due to the joys of corporate "personhood", I'm betting no-one. AFAIAC it should be Russia's problem.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Re: This is crazy

The part I found interesting is when the article said "abandoned dockside in St John’s, Newfoundland". So that and the comment that was saying the crew stayed for months, seems it was still moored somewhere until they tried to move it then left it to drift.

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