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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

Lets let it play out and the CG investigate before we rush to judgement.

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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

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That water is so cold, if you're not found immediately you cannot survive.
Water temp around 50°. Survival time for an adult is about 12 hours. About half that for a child. Not taking into account the rough sea state which could easily shorten those times.
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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

While I too hope it's a hoax if only because if it's not, it's a potential tragedy, paragraph 3 in this article, paraphrasing Coast Guard RCC people estimating the position of the broadcast as 65 miles west of Monterey, sounds eerily like a genuine Mayday from sea:

Rescuers hunt for 4 missing boaters - SFGate

Most hoax mayday broadcasts are triangulated to somewhwere on shore, not way offshore.
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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

4 people abandoning ship with "a life ring and a cooler to hang onto"; in that water, terrible. A very grim image. Please tell me at least they had a flare kit. Please let it be a hoax....
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From the AP: The U.S. Coast Guard was searching Monday for four family members, including two young children, who sent distress calls saying their sailboat was sinking near San Francisco and they were trying to make a life raft out of a cooler and a life preserver.
This whole thing is sickening. God be with them.
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Water temp around 50°. Survival time for an adult is about 12 hours. About half that for a child. Not taking into account the rough sea state which could easily shorten those times.
I would think that it would take one tough person to last 12 hours in that water. I had to go over the side of our commercial salmon troller at Point Reyes to clear a big gob of kelp from the raw water intake. When I first got in the water I couldn't breathe. By the time I got it cleared and got back into the boat I could hardly move. I was in my late 20's at the time and had done a lot of free diving for abalone, but with a wetsuit on. 12 hours without a survivor or wet suit sounds like a really long time, but I guess some people are tough.

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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

65 NM is a long way for VHF. I hope it's a hoax.
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65 NM is a long way for VHF. I hope it's a hoax.
I have read that the CG has some very sensitive VHF antennas mounted way up high on the Coast Range mountains and can at least receive signals from a long way out. Given a long enough signal I think they can get a pretty good fix on where the transmitter is. I hope I am wrong but it doesn't sound good.

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65 NM is a long way for VHF.
I dont think its too far at all. The USCG has some pretty amazing coast stations for the AIS. I guess its the same or similar for VHF Voice.

I reckon they could pick up a 25 watt VHF at that range.

Remeber your satellite phone uses a type of VHF to talk to blobs in space. So a high tower will be in line of sight.

And the comms were broken, not clear transmitions.
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Water temp around 50°. Survival time for an adult is about 12 hours. About half that for a child. Not taking into account the rough sea state which could easily shorten those times.
Not sure where you got 12 hours from... from this table it could be as little as 45 minutes, with no life jacket or wet suit, and thus depending on swimming to stay afloat :

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