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Considering that no one has reported this family missing does make one wonder, especially since a member of another family (the cousin/nephew) was also on board. If they were making a longer trip, it would be more understandable since they may not be expected to arrive anywhere yet.
There's a whole lot about this one that just doesn't ring true. That's been the fishy aspect to this one for me, as well... Seems this story has gotten enough play in the west coast mainstream media by now, that anyone whose child - the "nephew" aboard - would have come forward to verify some aspect of this story, by now...
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Feeling sick about those kids.. I'd think that if it was a hoax perpetrated aboard a larger vessel the CG could pinpoint that vessel with radar or whatever..

The real improbable thing is how did a daysailor get 60+NM offshore, and if it's a truly a boat on an 'offshore' trip how could anyone take their family (and others') out there this time of year with no safety gear??
The thing about pinpointing it, if it were a hoax from another vessel, is that there are numerous ships off the coast of California at all times. You can check here to see what's there right now:

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The thing about pinpointing it, if it were a hoax from another vessel, is that there are numerous ships off the coast of California at all times. You can check here to see what's there right now:

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True... Wasn't thinking about the sheer amount of traffic in that area, and "they" would be long gone by now...

Just hoping its not real....
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The real improbable thing is how did a daysailor get 60+NM offshore
This is exactly what they're wondering. Esp since we've had extremely high winds over the weekend. The guy said they just couldn't figure how they'd get that far out, while being totally unknown to local marinas.
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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

Going back to the radio call, it's not necessarily the calmness of his voice that doesn't sit right with me, but the calmness of the transmission overall. There was a gale warning, with seas somewhere between 9 to 20 feet. That would be a pretty rough ride in a 29-foot sailboat. Yet his voice (not his demeanor per se) does not sound like someone trying to keep his balance while the boat is being tossed around and sinking. We only heard one small clip so there's not a whole lot to go by.

Again, I'm not trying to minimize the seriousness of the situation for those people if the call is actually real. Just thinking of what it would be like on that boat in those conditions.

(Also - it is physically exhausting to sail in rough conditions. Add in trying to save your boat from sinking, trying to piece together a makeshift liferaft, trying to secure loose objects in a gale, etc.)

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The thing about pinpointing it, if it were a hoax from another vessel, is that there are numerous ships off the coast of California at all times. You can check here to see what's there right now:

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Small vessel, no other safety gear and you think it has an AIS transciever B...highly unlikely
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Small vessel, no other safety gear and you think it has an AIS transciever B...highly unlikely
I took Belisana's point to be, that the hoax call could have been made from a commercial or other vessel in that vicinity...

You can certainly bet that the CG is conducting a very careful review of AIS tracks along that part of the coast, in an effort to determine the potential source of a hoax call...
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Re: Sailboat missing off CA coast

I agree it's odd that no one shoreside has come forward with knowledge of these folks or the boat. That said, it is possible that they had been maintaining a secluded existence somewhere. There's plenty of people out there like that.
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I took Belisana's point to be, that the hoax call could have been made from a commercial or other vessel in that vicinity...

You can certainly bet that the CG is conducting a very careful review of AIS tracks along that part of the coast, in an effort to determine the potential source of a hoax call...
Yes, you're correct, Jon - I was referring to Faster's comment that I quoted about a possible hoax call being placed from a larger vessel in the area.
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I agree it's odd that no one shore side has come forward with knowledge of these folks or the boat. That said, it is possible that they had been maintaining a secluded existence somewhere. There's plenty of people out there like that.
Perhaps the "cousin" was an orphan with no concerned mother or father or aunt or uncles (other than the erst-while sailors of course). Or, if not an orphan, a family of semi-recluses that doesn't get news papers or listen to the radio or watch the Dumb Box and so hasn't a clue that their little darling is endangered... I Don't Think So.

This call could very easily have come from someone with a "hard on" for the CG. A fishing boat or other smaller commercial vessel that had been hassled at some point by the CG or EPA or what have you and was looking for a little "pay back" by sending them off on a wild goose chase. Ten bucks says that this is all a hoax...
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