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I've seen those things on CSI shows also. We'll see, but I have a feeling it's still science fiction. Those shows fail to take into account the loss of high frequency resolution due to VHF and/or cell phone transmission. Such "voice prints" are not nearly as clear-cut as they make it seem on TV.

In general, the CSI shows are great for getting people interested in and excited about science. The reality is that the answers almost never pop out as cleanly as they make it appear. Real science is always a lot harder than the actors make it look.
There's also the whole restriction on gathering intelligence on U.S. persons -- the only "three letter" federal organization that can do this legally is the FBI. If the NSA were to assist, they'd be in for a very long day in front of the Congressional intel oversight committees.


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There's also the whole restriction on gathering intelligence on U.S. persons -- the only "three letter" federal organization that can do this legally is the FBI. If the NSA were to assist, they'd be in for a very long day in front of the Congressional intel oversight committees.
Isn't 65NM offshore "international waters"?

I honestly thought this couldn't be a hoax because the transmission would have to originate offshore, and who, I mean who, would actually BE offshore and initiate a hoax like this? It was a good point brought up by someone else on this thread that it could be someone with a beef with the CG. Prior boarding that didn't go well for them perhaps...

I hope they catch them.

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Beyond 200 miles is international waters.
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Isn't 65NM offshore "international waters"?

I honestly thought this couldn't be a hoax because the transmission would have to originate offshore, and who, I mean who, would actually BE offshore and initiate a hoax like this? It was a good point brought up by someone else on this thread that it could be someone with a beef with the CG. Prior boarding that didn't go well for them perhaps...

I hope they catch them.

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I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it could be terrorists or foreign enemies testing our capabilities. There might be someone out there who wants to know how closely the USCG can pinpoint the locations of approaching boats.


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On another forum it was mentioned that drug smugglers will sometimes make a fake mayday call to draw the CG away from their intended route.
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I am glad to hear it was a hoax. I sail in the PNW and the waters are cold. I went in one day to clear a foweled prop and after 5 minutes I needed help to get out of the water brrrr. We sail with a 4 and 6 year old and my heart sank when we started all of this. And by the way who ever is responsible should be naied to the wall for risking the lives of the coast gards men and women who were involved in the search.
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I'm sensing some sarcasm.

Maybe in Tampa everyone walks around with iphones, updating twitter every 30 seconds, then liking stuff on facebook, while swiping debit cards at starbucks and then blogging about it. It's kinda naive to think that everyone is that plugged into society.

I have no idea if that is true here, but it's possible that this group was living on the margins of society and no one is yet missing them.

Very possible, not every boater is equipped for offshore. I know of situations where people get a real cheap boat and end up living on it, and also entertain thoughts of taking it on a long voyage. Some anchor-outs would be homeless without their boat. They may chased out of safe anchorages by authorities, and then end up on the high seas with little or no power.
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I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it could be terrorists or foreign enemies testing our capabilities. There might be someone out there who wants to know how closely the USCG can pinpoint the locations of approaching boats.
Excellent theory and I never thought about that. I would not be surprised if this was indeed true. So it was all confirmed a hoax?
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So it was all confirmed a hoax?
No. But there has been no evidence other than the radio communication to suggest that the incident actually ocurred. Coast Guard has suspended the search and is investigating the possibility of a hoax.
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On another forum it was mentioned that drug smugglers will sometimes make a fake mayday call to draw the CG away from their intended route.
Good point, and smugglers are using submarines now, after call, it submerged.
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