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Re: Catalina 42 ... Why not?

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Just for comparison, mine is completely dry inside through heavy rain or taking waves over the bow.
Mine was too until I tried it in racing conditions for 10+ hours beating directly into the famous square chop of the Chespeake with 20kts+ on the nose, the rail nearly in the water and a foot of water over the entire foredeck, as often as not . These would be mild conditions compared to what you could expect to encounter at least at some point in an ocean crossing.

Unless its a hull/deck joint leak, its something that can be addressed, but its also something you need to be prepared for if you are buying a 15+ year old boat and thinking of crossing oceans with it. Rudders are another area of concern for a Catalina of this vintage. Many will have wet core by this age, which should be addressed before venturing far offshore.

Personally, I think Catalina made an improvement going to the toe rail type hull/deck joint of the C400, but I still prefer the C42 cabin layout.

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Re: Catalina 42 ... Why not?

Not a boat I would take down into the southern ocean but for what you are planning they will do just fine.

I would look for one with slab reefing rather than inmast furling though.
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Not a boat I would take down into the southern ocean but for what you are planning they will do just fine.

I would look for one with slab reefing rather than inmast furling though.
I would half agree. Boat should be adequate for the purpose you mention. The reality is that there are an incredible range of boats 'out there' being cruised successfully.

I have had my first experience with a furling main with our current boat and have been very impressed it after 25,000 mostly bluewater miles. It has not given us any trouble and offers tremendous flexibility and the safety of not having to leave the cockpit when the snot hits the fan. With vane steering it is wonderful for balancing the rig. One caveat, my experience is only with Hood gear and I can't comment on the reliability of others. We met a Swiss couple who had had so many problems with jams on the inmast furling on their Discovery 55 that they replaced the entire rig with one that in boom furling. Don't know the brand.
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I've only sailed two boats with in mast furling - a Hunter 40 DS and a Saga 409...both had furling issues nearly every time we furled, either at days end or with increasing wind. I don't think poor technique was the cause but rather less than perfect maintenance I suspect.
I'm pretty sure that I'm nearly convinced that for every 10,000 sea miles an in mast system will malfunction more often than slab reefing...
I may be budging on the wing keel issue but I doubt I'll ever own a rig with in mast furling.
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I've only sailed two boats with in mast furling - a Hunter 40 DS and a Saga 409...both had furling issues nearly every time we furled, either at days end or with increasing wind. I don't think poor technique was the cause but rather less than perfect maintenance I suspect.
I'm pretty sure that I'm nearly convinced that for every 10,000 sea miles an in mast system will malfunction more often than slab reefing...
I may be budging on the wing keel issue but I doubt I'll ever own a rig with in mast furling.
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I think I'm with you on both counts. I really don't have any negative experience with a winged keel, but the performance side of sailing always calls to me, so I'd almost certainly opt for a deep keel version of whatever proves to be my next boat, so long as the draft was still reasonable for the Chesapeake and east coast.

The apparent convienience of the furling main appeals to one side of me while the performance side of my brain is repelled by the flat cut and lack of roach in these sails. Also being a bit of a pessimist, I fully expect a rolling furler main would fail me at exactly the worst time, which would displease the lazy side of my personality that was drawn to it in the first place, so this one feature I find easy to leave off my list of wants.
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Re: Catalina 42 ... Why not?

Ok, I'm just a weekend & vacation sailor, but that's every weekend from the beginning of April till the end of November. I've had three boats with in mast furling and that's part of the reason I'm out sailing virtually every day I'm on the boat, when many (most) seem not to bother.

The latest is a 41 Beneteau with vertical battens and it's as completely trouble free as the other 2....and fast. Granted, it's not a boat for ocean cruising.

So, it depends what kind of sailing you plan to do. Sit at the dock or circumnavigate would be one choice, sailing and anchoring most days would be the other.
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I'm pretty sure that I'm nearly convinced that for every 10,000 sea miles an in mast system will malfunction more often than slab reefing...

...I think the more moving parts, the more chance for malfunction.
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Good for you sails up and your gone. Enjoy!!!
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Re: Catalina 42 ... Why not?

Inmast furling would be a non-starter for me. After sailing the C42 for a while in nasty conditions, come back and tell us how she might handle 20' waves on a ocean crossing. Otherwise, sounds like a great retirement.
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Re: Catalina 42 ... Why not?

If given a choice I would go for the in mast furling. Having used most systems and having many get together's with other cruisers, It would seem those that had problems where due to worn, stretched and out of shape sail. If I can find me some more money and I do upgrade right near the top of the nice to have list will be In Mast Furling.

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