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Re: Downside to leaving outboard motor prop in water?

The Kent Ranger 24 that used to be berthed next to my boat had the outboard mounted on a board that could raise it up out of the well. This looked like a stock configuration, perhaps they changed it over the years? It might be worth looking at how other KR24's are configured. There is a sailing club in Renton that brings one up to Goose Bumps races sometimes, perhaps you could check out how they've done it?

Ice in the cooling passages would be extremely bad for the outboard. It's unlikely in WA, but possible since you keep the boat on fresh water.

One of the best things about an outboard on a sailboat is that you can lift the motor out of the water and don't have to deal with the hassles of a folding or feathering inboard prop or the drag of a fixed prop. It is a shame if you can't take advantage of that on your boat. If it were mine I'd try to figure out how to get the motor lifted out of there.

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Re: Downside to leaving outboard motor prop in water?

saltwater also has a lower freezing temperature.. so even less likely

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His boat isn't on salt water, it is on Lake Washington which is fresh water.

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Re: Downside to leaving outboard motor prop in water?

that is a different matter then.

Exactly how far up can you get the engine? The only problems I see with leaving it in would be growth in the intakes.. At least freshwater means no barnacles

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Re: Downside to leaving outboard motor prop in water?

is it possible to bag the lower unit, after bagging it pump out the water, then no growth.
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is it possible to bag the lower unit, after bagging it pump out the water, then no growth.
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I don't understand this product. The bag will collect rainwater. Any wave action from storms, and this water will be contaminated by the seawater. Since it all sits on the surface and the blue bag soaks up the sun, the rainwater will get very warm. Looks like a very healthy culture for growing slime. The water in the bag will likely get contaminated with some barnacle larvae, and you've got barnacles, which will grow very fast thanks to the heat.

I don't see how this product will do anything to protect the boat. It will just lull you into false security, so you'll leave your bottom bare and suffer the consequences.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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I have heard people will wrap their prop with a thick mil black trash bag and tape it up totally covering the submerged portion of the out board or the lower end. Theory is to block the light out and stop photosinthesis( prob spelled that wrong ) ever hear of that and-or any truth to it. Also somthing about it's normally warmer in the water that the air. But I'm probly totally wrong.
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Re: Downside to leaving outboard motor prop in water?

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is it possible to bag the lower unit, after bagging it pump out the water, then no growth.
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Their actual website is unavailable. I assume it is because their product was not useful. Personally, I can't imagine what they thought it was useful for. I'm even trying to think of what would happen to it during high winds, while the boat wasn't on top of it. I'm going to put that invention on the list with cayenne bandages.

I see no net value in the OP trying to get clever with this one. If you must leave the leg in the water, I would just paint it with anti-fouling and wipe it down a few times per year. While it doesn't sound like you can close a cover if you lift the outboard, perhaps you could just have a way to lift it so that you could clean it periodically.


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I don't understand this product. The bag will collect rainwater. Any wave action from storms, and this water will be contaminated by the seawater. Since it all sits on the surface and the blue bag soaks up the sun, the rainwater will get very warm. Looks like a very healthy culture for growing slime. The water in the bag will likely get contaminated with some barnacle larvae, and you've got barnacles, which will grow very fast thanks to the heat.

I don't see how this product will do anything to protect the boat. It will just lull you into false security, so you'll leave your bottom bare and suffer the consequences.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
As already mentioned.. he is in Fresh water. Also, his outboard is in a well, so with the hatch closed, it keeps the rain out. While maybe not a good an idea as say the thick trash bags (which would do the same thing) it would work well in his case

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As already mentioned.. he is in Fresh water. Also, his outboard is in a well, so with the hatch closed, it keeps the rain out. While maybe not a good an idea as say the thick trash bags (which would do the same thing) it would work well in his case
My comment was directed at the video, not the specifics of the OP's situation.

Did you look at the video? I don't see it working for anyone - fresh water or salt water. Pulling your whole boat over a plastic tarp with flotation around the edges is just a stupid idea. No way you'll keep moisture out of the area between the hull and tarp. Even if you don't have barnacles in fresh water, you'll still get slime, mold, leaves, seeds, and all sorts of other organic matter that will decay into a nice smelly culture. There's a reason why swimming pools have chlorine and filters.


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