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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

Has anyone done the inlet (or anywhere else along the Jersey coast) post Sandy?
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

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Has anyone done the inlet (or anywhere else along the Jersey coast) post Sandy?
Just Manasquan and Cape May, nothing has changed there...

Passing by Barnegat about 3 weeks after the storm, the buoyage appeared unchanged... I watched a commercial vessel depart, and from what I could tell, he was taking the normal track out...

the Oyster Creek channel into the bay has undoubtedly changed somewhat, but with all the commercial fishing done out of Barnegat Light, if the inlet channel had shifted significantly, it certainly would have been re-marked by now...
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

Have to do the same trip. Crew will be my wife/me/ two delivery captains ( dealers for the boat) Believe they propose leaving Norfolk,Va -Straight shot to Barrington, R.I. Cut into L.I. sound depending on weather. Non stop. Although new boat it will be fully found except for entertainment electronics. Time late April/early May. Any concerns? Should I appeal to do the coastal hopping rather than straight shot? Figured learn the boat better in shorter time if we just "get her done".
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

They are picking the fastest route. It's your boat. If the weather is bad don't be talked into something you are not comfortable with.
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

This trip is my next cruising goal. I would much rather take a straight shot to Block Island from Cape May or Norfolk than coastal hop.

Here are the disadvantages of coastal hopping as I see it:

Risk of collision with local boat traffic
Risk of collision with Navaids, fishtraps, exposed wrecks, etc.
Risk of getting caught on lee shore with easterly/Noreaster
Risk of grounding on shoals, inlets, wrecks, etc.
Need to accommodate currents/tides in passage timing
Need to make certain distance in certain time for daylight inlet passages
Longer distance and considerably longer time required

Advantages:

Radio contact
Help nearby
Closer to rescue, if necessary
Psychological comfort of seeing land, other boats
Ability to refuel, restock, if necessary
Ability to sleep uninterrupted at dock or anchor w/o watch standing

Based on my non-scientific study of boating problems in the mid-Atlantic, most seem to stem from proximity to shore, not from being offshore. The distance of the straight shot from Va/NJ to RI is never so far from shore that you can't be saved by USCG if you carry an EPIRB.

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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

I see one glaring problem with your pro/con list above and that's a heavy emphasis on the availability of rescue. Offshore trips should be planned as if rescue was not a possibility. Make sure you and your craft are ready for the trip. If you aren't, don't go.

I note that you seem to believe that you will encounter shipping near the coast but not offshore. If this is so, you couldn't be more wrong. You will be crossing two very busy in- and out-bound lanes, as well as encountering a ton of fishing activity. Add to that the fact that in the spring you stnd a good chance of encountering fog and you are setting yourself up for at least a very unpleasant passage.

If you are concerned about being on a lee shore, just avoid leaving in those conditions.

Don't be what I call a "mighty man of the sea" and leave on a schedule. Wait for a decent weather window for your trip. And take the best route. Treat it as something to be completed within a set time and you open yourself up for all kinds of trouble.
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

Both regall me with sea stories of storms they have gone through on transports. Wife and I both still work (MD/RN). Can arrange 7-10d window for trip. Boat has SSB, full nav with all the toys, raft/EPIRBs,Jordan series drogue, full ditchbag stormjib on colego softstay etc. so have much less concern about safety. Boat is purpose built passagemaker as well. Figure with radar and AIS shipping channels less of an issue.Wife has no offshore experience. I've done multiple Marion/Newport to Bermudas and some transports. Figure safe way to get her to realize the danger in the ocean is at the hard edges. Will use 96h weather charts to pick window. Will motorsail in light air (have 200+h of fuel at 7kts.) so figure 4d max.
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Also note plan to do 3 person watch schedule with her always on watch with another person. I want to have one of "paid" crew with me as much of the time as possible to learn ship systems. That way the admiral is learning from some one other than me and I'm learning from people who really know my boat.
Question is will we gain(learn) more fom this trip going coastal or offshore?
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

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Have to do the same trip. Crew will be my wife/me/ two delivery captains ( dealers for the boat) Believe they propose leaving Norfolk,Va -Straight shot to Barrington, R.I. Cut into L.I. sound depending on weather. Non stop. Although new boat it will be fully found except for entertainment electronics. Time late April/early May. Any concerns? Should I appeal to do the coastal hopping rather than straight shot? Figured learn the boat better in shorter time if we just "get her done".
Prudence dictates a proper shakedown before you go on an offshore trip like this. You need to verify all systems are working and up to the task--even if brand new--by spending significant time off the dock, but near enough to get a tow or other help if needed. Heading up the Chesapeake would offer you "offramps" if needed. The detour would be worth the several extra days if you've never been there.

If you stick to the original plan and you've never been offshore for days at a time, you may want to take precautions against sea sickness.
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Re: Norfolk, VA to Boston delivery

Builder/dealer will shakedown boat before my arrival. Will spend first day turning everything on/off during a daysail. That way failures dealt with by installors even if trip postponed. Then I was thinking of coastal for first 24-36h of cruise then offshore. I've done 5-10d trips offshore. She has been ~24h offshore. ? Can you suggest hybrid route plan?. Want to allow at least 3-4 d "downtime" inside our 10d window to allow for picking weather window so ideally keep trip no longer than 4-5d. Boat easily driven to hull speed of 8.38kts.
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