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rockDAWG 03-10-2013 09:46 PM

Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
I am sure commercial airline does not equipped with VHF or monitoring on Channel 16. I have a feeling that there are more planes above the Ocean than ships, Just wonder for the little guys on the sailboat can take the advantage of them flying above of us to relay weather and emergency message.

Self reliance is a must, but the ocean doesn't have to be so lonely either.

proflyer 03-10-2013 09:54 PM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
You would need a vhf radio capable of transmission on 121.5 mhz. That is the frequency we monitor on oceanic legs.

aa3jy 03-10-2013 09:57 PM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by proflyer (Post 1000888)
You would need a vhf radio capable of transmission on 121.5 mhz. That is the frequency we monitor on oceanic legs.

...and in AM not FM mode

SOVT 03-10-2013 10:11 PM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
Also 123.45 air to air. In addition we don't monitor but perform sel call checks and some aircraft do position reports on HF frequencies. They are listed on the orientathttps://www.google.com/search?q=atlantic+orientation+chart&hl=en&client=s afari&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Oy49UaqeH 6WG0QH0v4HwCw&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=320&bih=416ion charts.
Some samples.
https://www.google.com/search?q=atla...iw=320&bih=416

svzephyr44 03-11-2013 12:00 AM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
The SAR groups do take advantage of aircraft but they use SSB radio. By far the still best "help me" device is an EPIRB

jackdale 03-11-2013 12:33 AM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svzephyr44 (Post 1000924)
The SAR groups do take advantage of aircraft but they use SSB radio. By far the still best "help me" device is an EPIRB

Or a sat phone. Some "help mes" are not distress.

Have a list of appropriate CG locations with phone numbers.

tombesore 03-11-2013 12:40 AM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
More than a few airline pilots are also amateur radio operators who enjoy chatting on HF SSB during a break in their duties on long flights. I recently chatted with one such fellow (KA1GJU) on his break! Look him up on QRZ dot com for an interesting bio of his setup.

Having a ham license and HF gear aboard enhances your communications options at sea and is yet another tool in your communications bag of tricks. It also makes a nice complementary hobby on long passages.

MedSailor 03-11-2013 12:50 AM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockDAWG (Post 1000885)
I am sure commercial airline does not equipped with VHF or monitoring on Channel 16. I have a feeling that there are more planes above the Ocean than ships, Just wonder for the little guys on the sailboat can take the advantage of them flying above of us to relay weather and emergency message.

Self reliance is a must, but the ocean doesn't have to be so lonely either.

I have thought of this as well and think it would be prudent to have the correct aviation frequencies programmed in to your radio. Anyone remember the recent flight off australia that heard the distress call from the yacht, descended and the captain asked the passengers to help look for it?

EPIRBS are great, sat phones are arguably better, but many of us don't have sat phones but do or will have SSB/ham radios. For the times when you don't want to fire off the EPIRB and have an AMVER freighter come alongside and evacuate you, the aviation frequencies could be a voice link when you're out of range of normal SSB/HAM voice transmissions.

It's another option that has the advantage of not costing any more than your currently installed radio. To take it one step further you could take a great circle chart of your area of ocean with flight routes marked on it. Could be a nice thing to have in a liferaft along with a handheld ham radio.

MedSailor

jackdale 03-11-2013 12:56 AM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
Here is a nice graphic from AMVER that is useful as decision making model

http://www3.telus.net/jackdale/pics/Amveremerg.gif

tombesore 03-11-2013 01:03 AM

Re: Taking advantage of commercial airline when in Emergency?
 
A small modern ham transceiver such as the Icom 7000 is terrific to program in a variety of these HF, VHF and UHF frequencies and, even as complicated as it may be to operate, is far easier and more versatile than the marine specific Icom M802. Getting a license and learning how to operate these ahead of time is effort well spent.


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