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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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I was referring to the arrangement described by c. breeze...

Of course, an assortment of builders have been using variations of the configuration you've illustrated for years... The Hunter I referenced above is probably 20 years old, by now...




Yeah, I suppose it's time for me to trade up to a Dock 'n Go Joystick control system, for sure... (grin)

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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

Square riggers think Sloops are cheating. Sloops think Bow thrusters are cheating. Bow thrusters think joy-stick docking is cheating. Very funny.

I'm not a fan of joy-stick docking only because it make you look like a stinkpotter.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

If I were a motorboater kind of guy, I'd jump on the Volvo IPS system in a heartbeat. A Targa 42 with twin IPS drives would be a lot of fun, I think.

I'm not a motorboater, though.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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Yeah, I suppose it's time for me to trade up to a Dock 'n Go Joystick control system, for sure... (grin)

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You gotta admit though...thrust vectoring is pretty slick! Not like those old-school bow thrusters that the traditionalists are so fond of!
Yeah I suppose that option is $30K well spent, if it gets your wife/girlfriend to drape herself all over you like you're the Ultimate Docking God... Hell, the only thing that boat is lacking is the side-by-side bathtubs from the Cialis ads on the foredeck...

You do have to love the way the boat ties itself up automatically, however... (grin)
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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Yeah I suppose that option is $30K well spent, if it gets your wife/girlfriend to drape herself all over you like you're the Ultimate Docking God... Hell, the only thing that boat is lacking is the side-by-side bathtubs from the Cialis ads on the foredeck...

You do have to love the way the boat ties itself up automatically, however... (grin)
Yeah I got a chuckle out of the magic dock lines! I might consider the $30k if it did THAT too!
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

I finally watched it. The only thing that bugs me is them havin the kid "help" like grandpa is teaching him how to dock- because that is not how it's done. That and not having any sails on the boat.

I run into old people all the time- not o the 1000's of ocean miles curmudgeon school- who simply can't handle their boat. They worked there ass off to retire and go cruising- and found out- oh hey- I'm just not as physically capable of all this as I thought I would be.

So they do things like use only one anchor when they need two- because only one is on a windless. And they end up grounded with rudder fairin snapped off and quadrant broken- so when they do start floating again- all they can do is call for help.

They jam there sails in there booms and masts. (I probably would too- but it's hard to do with jiffy reefing)

They get water in their diesel and can't make the motor run, and can't replace the racor seperator.

Ill see more of that every year- all because of stuff like this.


This add is a complete affront. It encourages destroying the foundation of seamanship on which the future of sailing will be built- by poisoning the minds of children with even more shortcuts and easy ways out. And it puts even more relatively helpless old people into boats that they absolutely can not actually handle- because they have the illusion of control provided by yet another "amenity" sadly there will be an entire navy of people out there using it as a crutch rather than an amenity.

Somebody put a tiller in that kids hand for Christ sake.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

C.Breeze I'm one of those who "worked my ass off to retire". Maybe I'm not as physically able- I know my endurance sucks and my joints aren't too great either. But I've managed to go to Bermuda (won once) several times ( did it with celestial once too) and from N.E. to the Carribean a few times and have been through a number of storms. What I see more often then infirm elderly are arrogant youth who have yet to gain the humility and wisdom that comes with age.Last summer came in on the launch with a couple in their 80's. They needed help getting in and alot of help getting their kit off their boat into the launch as well. They had big smiles as they just came back from a two week cruise. Wife was on me as it took 3 passes for them to pick up their mooring. Watched closely and was ready to help but they did it themselves. ?Isn't that what it's about? They made everyone on the launch smile and it was a great day to be alive.
Suspect over 35+yrs. I have owned a few more boats than you have children. My new boat is the first I will have that has power winches and a bow thruster. Something new to learn.
Find your comment age-ist and an expression of your own inadequacies. Plase keep your hateful thoughts to your self. Would appreciate further comments about running rigging brought aft as my crippled old knees and fat gut make it difficult to go forward in a blow.
People of all ages learn from experience and being taught.Doesn't matter if they get it at 30 or 60. If you are skilled perhaps you can put joy in this world by sharing your skills not your insults.Show them how to use the Racor, explain about anchoring and snubbing etc.
They are putting Z drives on ships now too. Guess their Masters don't know any seamanship either. Lighten up - It's an ad. ?Think the kid was his son not his grandson. (GRIN)
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

my crippled old knees are abe to go forwardon my flat wide decks, even the 20 ft from cockpit to main mast. i have a nice coachhouse roof under my main boom,and is good for standing on top of while raising main sail, when it is used. all easy and not dangerous. at least not more dangerous than crossing a street in lost angeles...at dusk....downtown..
to my cockpit go only my jib furling line and sheets. on my coach house roof aft, my main sheet. abaft my helm seat, which is a comfy sofa, is my mizzen sheet.
i usually sola with only jib and mizzen, so i dont have to fool around with going forward.
and i have a great autopilot. boat tracks perfect and for loong time--- i have no worries about going forward in 30 ft seas--btdt...wasnt a big deal....
tried to go forward in gom in a 37 seidelmann--fuggeddaboudit. and those were only 8 ft seas.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

Zeehag - that's great. Your boat is set up with human ergonomics in mind and a comfortable motion from what you describe. Set my boat up to run from under the hard dodger but in a fashion that should any of the "new fangled" devices fail I could still do it the old fashion way. Find the more you bring aft the easier it is to shape your sails so the more likely you will do it. Rerigged my last boat so outhaul and kicking strap were brought aft ( had single hander's package to start). Found I was shaping the main for point of sail even when just day sailing around Buzzards Bay for an hour or two,
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

outbound--if i shaped my mainsail, i wouldnt gain any boat speed...is a brick...i ihave a nicely baggy , slightly too small main sail which is fully battened. my mizzen is super bag, and jib is ok. boat sails and doesnt do bad --i dont worry about trimming as she is slow anyway--i get 3 whole kts in a 6 kt breeze......mebbe....downhill...
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