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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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Jeanneau has actually built boats with lines led aft inside the cabin???

I must confess, I've never seen such a thing, nor even heard of it until this thread...
No, they run through a tunnel. They don't actually penetrate the deck, they are just covered up. It does look as though the tunnels could be quite a water scoop if you punched through a green wave. Could be quite a jet of water shooting out the back end! I don't imagine it would happen very often though.

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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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....... I remain completely baffled by the rationale for creating numerous openings in the cabin top, simply to run lines aft inside the cabin for a relatively short distance, and then exiting up to the cabin top again, when they could seemingly be led so much more directly along the cabin top itself.........
Now I get your point. I didn't realize you were objecting to an actual deck penetration into the cabin. I agree, that sounds undesirable. Sort of like leaving a foredeck hatch open, which I recall you trying to say.

Ours run from the mast base, over a window that you wouldn't stand on, though a deck organizer and then into a tunnel that exits inside the dodger.

Technically, the lines run through a molded ditch in the cabin top and a piece of fiberglass is screwed down on top to make it flush with the rest. I've never taken than cap off, I bet its filthy in there.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

You need to be punching through more green waves- really keep those well rinsed.
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You need to be punching through more green waves- really keep those well rinsed.
Not like I haven't tried.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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Technically, the lines run through a molded ditch in the cabin top and a piece of fiberglass is screwed down on top to make it flush with the rest. I've never taken than cap off, I bet its filthy in there.
Bird's nests? Leaves? Built up salt? That handkerchief you thought you lost?

Open that thing up, clean it out, and lube anything in there that moves. Repeat annually. *grin*
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Bird's nests? Leaves? Built up salt? That handkerchief you thought you lost?

Open that thing up, clean it out, and lube anything in there that moves. Repeat annually. *grin*
.. same goes for any storm hoods over sliding companionway hatches...
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In an amusing coincidence, the April issue of SAIL addresses the very issue of running lines aft... Editor Peter Neilsen's column sings the praises of keeping such things simple, and in a Viewpoint column on page 26, Ben Ericksen explains "Why I'll Never Lead My Lines Aft"...

So, I guess perhaps Dave/Auspicious and I are not the only dinosaurs out there with such a minority point of view, after all... (grin)
I'm gonna pick that up today. Funny. I googled "sail magazine" and "lines aft" and found about 4 articles from previous issues about why you should and how to do it. Looks like they are trying to sell magazines by appealing to both sides of such a heated argument lol.
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

Yeah it's funny, I didn't think it was really a debate, because most manufacturers just don't put winches on the mast anymore. I have only ever seen that configuration on really old boats that haven't been updated. I guess some people are just traditionalists that don't want to embrace these "new-fangled" ideas!
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Yeah it's funny, I didn't think it was really a debate, because most manufacturers just don't put winches on the mast anymore. I have only ever seen that configuration on really old boats that haven't been updated. I guess some people are just traditionalists that don't want to embrace these "new-fangled" ideas!
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Re: Mostly singlehanded...what lines should I run aft?

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Jeanneau has actually built boats with lines led aft inside the cabin???

I must confess, I've never seen such a thing, nor even heard of it until this thread...
No, they run through a tunnel. They don't actually penetrate the deck, they are just covered up. It does look as though the tunnels could be quite a water scoop if you punched through a green wave. Could be quite a jet of water shooting out the back end! I don't imagine it would happen very often though.

I was referring to the arrangement described by c. breeze...

Of course, an assortment of builders have been using variations of the configuration you've illustrated for years... The Hunter I referenced above is probably 20 years old, by now...

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Yeah it's funny, I didn't think it was really a debate, because most manufacturers just don't put winches on the mast anymore. I have only ever seen that configuration on really old boats that haven't been updated. I guess some people are just traditionalists that don't want to embrace these "new-fangled" ideas!

Yeah, I suppose it's time for me to trade up to a Dock 'n Go Joystick control system, for sure... (grin)

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