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Re: How do you tie a cleat hitch?

Leave out the turn around the base of the cleat and double the knot. That way working line doesn't rub on edge of dock and you eliminate chance for chaffing. That is working portion comes off top of cleat instead of bottom.
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Re: How do you tie a cleat hitch?

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On a dock I like the minimum needed as we often a cleat for both breast and spring lines. On the boat the mid ship cleat is often used for both forward and aft spring lines.
A good point. Also applies to the cleats available on the dock. We have a stern, stern breast, midship, bow spring and two bow lines that all have to go on four cleats...
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Re: How do you tie a cleat hitch?

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I have never used this knot as it is known as a locking turn on the cleat. This can be dangerous when sailing big boats and you have to release the cleat in a hurry (for what ever reason). We just put more turns on the cealt. AS ALWAYS GO SAFE.
I sailed on the schooner Heritage in Maine. They did not use locking hitches for the same reason - that they take to long to remove. I disagree, removing a bunch of wraps can kink the line and takes more time than removing a single hitch. If the line is led around the cleat's base, there won't be much if any strain on the hitch and it's easy to remove.
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I think what hes saying he would use your example on his boat where his jib sheets need to be tied off as his winches are not self tailing winches.

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Another consideration - if I'm going aloft, I want the line cleated or I'm going to start screaming.

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Re: How do you tie a cleat hitch?

For the sheets and halyards while sailing, (No self tailing, regular horn cleats only) I never put on a locking hitch, I just take three wraps around the base of the cleat, nothing over the top. I have never had that come loose while sailing, even when the sail is flogging hard. Easy to undo in a hurry, never jams up. My boat is only 32 feet, so that might not work so well on a larger boat, I don't know...

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Re: How do you tie a cleat hitch?

Great conversation. I know the U.S.C.G. does not use locking hitches on dock lines, sometimes called a weather hitch. The consideration with a round turn at the base of the cleat is jamming at high load. Depending on the size of the cleat, line and load. Big boat - big lines - big loads.
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Re: How do you tie a cleat hitch?

I've had the breast and spring lines jam up tight at the hitch unless I put three full figure 8s on over a 3/4 turn around the base. This only happens if we have a big blow but it's just become habit now. I also like chafe guard that covers the first two turns around the base because that's where the line always starts to show wear from the constant working.

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